Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald

[Paul May]

Defected to Russia

Chairman of FPFC

Plotters actually over-sold him as a "commie" IMO

Apparently he was ?Chairman? of one, as he was the only member in New Orleans. You don?t know this?

[Walt Cakebread]

Rifle location was about 15 feet from the interior of the north wall (in above photo, look through stairway on left to the brick wall, which is the building's north wall). Rifle was found on the floor below the three opened boxes at right (only two are visible) next to the tall stack on the right edge of the photo.

The roughly ten-foot distance would be from the wooden wall on the right, which is a partition for the ascending stairway to the seventh floor.

Thank You, Jerry... I sincerely appreciate the opportunity to  discus this aspect of the case.

Rifle location was about 15 feet from the interior of the north wall 

Detective Robert Studebaker MEASURED the distance as 5 feet from the west wall and 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall with the muzzle pointing east.  You know that this is true, because you've posted Studebaker's map.



(in above photo, look through stairway on left to the brick wall, which is the building's north wall).
 
Yes, We agree on that point......

Rifle was found on the floor below the three opened boxes at right (only two are visible) next to the tall stack on the right edge of the photo.

NO!...That's NOT correct.....But that IS the location where the DPD placed the rifle to stage the phony in situ photo.

The roughly ten-foot distance would be from the wooden wall on the right, which is a partition for the ascending stairway to the seventh floor.

The south end of the wooden partition was about 8 feet from the north wall (LOOK at Studebaker's map) and the aisle was about 2 feet wide and the rifle in the phony in situ photo  was on the south side of that aisle or about 11 feet from the north wall.....  In reality the rifle was about four feet further south ( and four  feet down)  than the place where the rifle was placed for the fake photo.....

The south side of the brick column that has the "Stairway sign posted on it is about 11 feet from the north wall......

[John Iacoletti]

Apparently he was ?Chairman? of one, as he was the only member in New Orleans. You don?t know this?

You don?t even know this. It?s just an assumption.

[Walt Cakebread]

The map shows nothing ending eight feet from the north wall. The descending stairway, as portrayed on the map. seems to begin about ten feet from the north wall, The aisle on the map is about four-and-a-third feet. Could be four feet but drawn on the map too roughly. So a foot-and-a-half-or-so for the boxes gets you to 15' 4".



The map has the descending stairs begin about ten feet from the north wall. The brick column (with the Stairway sign) begins a bit south from where the descending stairs begin. The center of the brick column seems to correspond to the six wooden pillars that go east-to-west across the sixth floor). So the north edge of the column is about eleven feet from the north wall.

The center of the brick column seems to correspond to the six wooden pillars that go east-to-west across the sixth floor). So the north edge of the column is about eleven feet from the north wall.

No, the south side of the wood support pillars  were 13 feet from the north wall and the overhead beam was at the center of that brick column....IOW the boxes that formed the south wall of the aisle were on the south side of the pillar and those boxes were about 16 inches across....( see the box at the base of the twenty inch wide brick column) then there was another row of boxes that were about 12 inches across ( narrow width)  there was a wooden pallet on the floor at 15 feet from the north wall.... That's where the rifle was discovered...(See DP #12 on page 174 of 1st Day Evidence.)

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Apparently he was ?Chairman? of one, as he was the only member in New Orleans. You don?t know this?

Not even "Chairman". He said in the radio debate with Bringuier in New Orleans that he was Secretary.

But of course this was a cover story that he was told to make up.

Apparently the conspiracy allegation is that "they" framed him for the assassination because they wanted to blame Castro to justify an invasion. But then "they" also conducted a fake investigation - the Warren Commission - that cleared Castro of any involvement. Yes, the same people who framed him in order to remove Castro also said Castro was innocent of any involvement.

That makes no sense but in conspiracy world it doesn't have to make sense; it just has to feed a conspiracy belief.

[Walt Cakebread]

A crop from DP #12 is shown in the upper-right of the graphic above (DP #12 shows the "Stair Way" sign on the brick column). I think the south end of the brick column is getting about the 15 foot mark.

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark. Another four inches or so and there's the rifle.

The nearest pallet southward from the stairway (Pallet 1) is 18 or 19 feet from the north wall.

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark.

No, the wooden posts ( pillars) were not centered on the 13 foot mark the south side of those post were on the thirteen foot mark.... and the row of boxes were stacked in line with the south side of the post....the boxes were about 16 inches  X 12 inches....( see the box at the base of the brick column which is two and a half bricks across and use the bricks as a scale.)  so 13 feet plus 1 foot 4 inches puts the south edge of the boxes at 14 foot 4 inches. this is where the DPD placed the rifle to stage the phony in situ photo.......then there is a box which is 12 inches across and then the pallet on the floor....THAT is where the rifle was laying on the floor when Boone discovered it.... 

[John Iacoletti]

Apparently the conspiracy allegation is that "they" framed him for the assassination because they wanted to blame Castro to justify an invasion.

Who gets to decide what THE conspiracy allegation is?

But then "they" also conducted a fake investigation - the Warren Commission - that cleared Castro of any involvement. Yes, the same people who framed him in order to remove Castro also said Castro was innocent of any involvement.
That makes no sense but in conspiracy world it doesn't have to make sense; it just has to feed a conspiracy belief.

It makes no sense because nobody holds both of these views simultaneously.

[Walt Cakebread]

Rightly-or-wrongly, the map (which is the only thing I have to go by) shows the majority of the wooden posts (that go east-to-west from the rifle location) centered on the 13-foot mark from the north wall. Maybe someone at the museum could go measure it.



The arrowed boxes above are not where the rifle was located, but they appear to be a bit south of the box by the wooden post. The tall stack (it has the label "Looking West" on it in the graphic above) was to the east of the rifle location and it seems to be further south of the box by the wooden post and maybe the arrowed boxes in between.

Where the rifle lay on the floor appears to be in the 15 to 15 1/2 foot range.

Sort of. But the row of boxes veered towards the southwest. The box that is beside the wooden post is not even in line with the south side of the post. There's a gap.

There a box (which I labelled "E") that's as long as those in the tall stack. It seem to be short in DP #12 because of perspective.

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

No.... Seymour Weitzman said that the rifle was beneath the pallet.....