Two ways on how NOT to frame Oswald

[Walt Cakebread]

Rightly-or-wrongly, the map (which is the only thing I have to go by) shows the majority of the wooden posts (that go east-to-west from the rifle location) centered on the 13-foot mark from the north wall. Maybe someone at the museum could go measure it.



The arrowed boxes above are not where the rifle was located, but they appear to be a bit south of the box by the wooden post. The tall stack (it has the label "Looking West" on it in the graphic above) was to the east of the rifle location and it seems to be further south of the box by the wooden post and maybe the arrowed boxes in between.

Where the rifle lay on the floor appears to be in the 15 to 15 1/2 foot range.

Sort of. But the row of boxes veered towards the southwest. The box that is beside the wooden post is not even in line with the south side of the post. There's a gap.

There a box (which I labelled "E") that's as long as those in the tall stack. It seem to be short in DP #12 because of perspective.

So Boone thought the rifle was underneath a pallet?

Jeryy Look at the map.... The south side of the wooden pillar was 13 feet from the north wall. The pillars are 6"X6" .   And that dimension provides a scale for the box that is abutted to the south side of the pillar.....  The south side of that box was NOT 14 feet 10 inches from the north wall....it was about 14 feet from the north  wall
or about 1 foot 4 inches north of the spot where Boone and Weitzman discovered the rifle ON THE FLOOR beneath the wooden pallet.       

[Alan Ford]

Apparently the conspiracy allegation is that "they" framed him for the assassination because they wanted to blame Castro to justify an invasion. But then "they" also conducted a fake investigation - the Warren Commission - that cleared Castro of any involvement. Yes, the same people who framed him in order to remove Castro also said Castro was innocent of any involvement.

That makes no sense but in conspiracy world it doesn't have to make sense; it just has to feed a conspiracy belief.

Whose conspiracy allegation, precisely? And which conspiracy world?

Your conspiracy-allegation allegation is hopelessly vague, Mr Galbraith. Could it be that you're only comfortable belaboring a strawman? 

[Walt Cakebread]

I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

Thank you for pointing out that the pillars are 9.5 square.....  That's non dimensional, by today's standards but  maybe at the tim the TSBD was built they had different standards.

So that makes the box that is abutted to that post 19" long..... I thought that it was 16 inches......So we have the place between the pillar and the box at pillar at 13 feet ( south side of the pillar ) ..... That would mean the south side of that box is at 14 feet 7 inches......But Studebaker measured the distance from the wall to the rifle as 15 feet 4 inches...  That's a rather precise measurement ......and Boone said the rifle was about 8 feet south of the stairway partition.   

It's starting to appear that the DPD photo ( DP #12 is not authentic)

[Walt Cakebread]

I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

"I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"....  Seymour Weitzman



Notice that the north edge of the west window is 1 and 1/2 bricks ( approx 12 ")   south of the brick column.....

[Walt Cakebread]

A crop from DP #12 is shown in the upper-right of the graphic above (DP #12 shows the "Stair Way" sign on the brick column). I think the south end of the brick column is getting about the 15 foot mark.

The brick column is centered on the wooden posts and the map suggests they were centered on the 13 foot mark; the brick column is a lot wider than the posts, so a foot-foot wide brick column will get its south edge to the 15 foot mark. Another four inches or so and there's the rifle.

The nearest pallet southward from the stairway (Pallet 1) is 18 or 19 feet from the north wall.

On Studebaker's map he denotes that DP#12 was taken looking directly west toward the west wall and in line with the barrel of the rifle on the floor.  Please notice that he was standing in alignment with the boxes that are stacked ON THE PALLET.....  And that place beneath the pallet is the place where Weitzman and Boone discovered the rifle.

[Walt Cakebread]

I see the posts as a group centered on 13'. But OK.

Map says the wooden posts are 9 1/2" square.



If the wooden pillars are six inches square, then that makes the light switches on the one shown above very small, about 1.3 x 2.5 inches.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

    "I was on the floor looking under the flat at the same time
     he was looking on the top side and we saw the gun"

Anything that goes against the WCR, I guess. It's just a good-faith report by some old statesmen and young ambitious attorneys; it did nothing to you.

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

YES!!...."Beneath the wooden pallet." ... Isn't that the place that Studebaker is focusing his camera?    If the rifle hadn't been found there at the 15 foot  4 inch mark why would Studebaker have depicted that he was directly east of the rifle ( the rifle pointed right at his feet ) when he snapped DP #12?

[Walt Cakebread]

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

YES!!...."Beneath the wooden pallet." ... Isn't that the place that Studebaker is focusing his camera?    If the rifle hadn't been found there at the 15 foot  4 inch mark why would Studebaker have depicted that he was directly east of the rifle ( the rifle pointed right at his feet ) when he snapped DP #12?

 Notice where Detective Studebaker was standing when he took DP 12 and DP 13



This is DP #12 .....And Studebaker was facing the west side wall of the sixth floor when he took DP 12 and DP 13.   He was in line with the north edge of the wooden pallet on the floor ....and it was beneath the north edge of that pallet where Seymour Weitzman spotted the rifle.....15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  ( We can be certain that this spot is 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall by looking at the west wall in the background.....and taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall and the window was a couple of feet further south.

[Walt Cakebread]

"Beneath the wooden pallet." LOL!

YES!!...."Beneath the wooden pallet." ... Isn't that the place that Studebaker is focusing his camera?    If the rifle hadn't been found there at the 15 foot  4 inch mark why would Studebaker have depicted that he was directly east of the rifle ( the rifle pointed right at his feet ) when he snapped DP #12?

 Notice where Detective Studebaker was standing when he took DP 12 and DP 13



This is DP #12 .....And Studebaker was facing the west side wall of the sixth floor when he took DP 12 and DP 13.   He was in line with the north edge of the wooden pallet on the floor ....and it was beneath the north edge of that pallet where Seymour Weitzman spotted the rifle.....15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  ( We can be certain that this spot is 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall by looking at the west wall in the background.....and taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall and the window was a couple of feet further south.

taking note that the brick column just to the right of the north edge of the window. The map shows us that that brick column was at 13 feet from the north wall
The north edge of the window is 15 feet from the north wall.......

Since i'm getting no feed back, I can only hope that I'm making myself clear.    The point is:....The rifle was found laying on the floor 15 feet 4 inches from the north wall.  It was NOT found where the official in situ photos depict it.     This not speculation ...it is a provable fact.   which is substantiated by Tom Alyea's video which shows Detective Day grab the leather sling of the rifle and hoist it from the floor.