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Offline Gary Craig

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"I thought we had photographed the outside and inside of entry wound in skull."

Finck presumably thought there was a photo showing the entry wound on the bare skull, but it actually showed the entry wound with the scalp in place. Finck himself signed off on this in the 1967 Inspection. And there certainly is a photograph showing the inside of the entry wound on the skull. Finck signed off on that, also.

It's strange that Finck could forget those two things in the course of one month.

"It's strange that Finck could forget those two things in the course of one month.

Finck was the wound specialist at the autopsy. Called in for his specific skill set.

He didn't forget.

The photos were taken at the autopsy and Finck noted them missing.

Humes corroborates Finck.

The outside EOP wound was photographed with the scalp refracted.






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Offline Gary Craig

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There was a coverup?

Go back to sleep Biil.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Go back to sleep Biil.

Can't wait for your presser
Can you step on it... I won't live another 56 years
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Walter Winborn told researchers that he saw smoke come from the trees when the shots were fired.
Note that Thomas Murphy said the same thing.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=4271#relPageId=41&tab=page
 
That is not what the FBI report stated that they said...
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh22/pdf/WH22_CE_1417.pdf

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Walter Winborn and Thomas Murphy (both interviewed by Stuart Galanor in May 1966)
In May of 1966 I spoke with railroad workers Thomas Murphy and Walter Winborn, who were standing on the triple overpass at the time of the assassination. I asked Murphy, "Could you tell me where you thought the shots came from?"

Murphy. Yeah, they come from a tree to the left, of my left, which is to the immediate right of the site of the assassination.
Galanor. That would be on that grassy hill up there.
Murphy. Yeah, on the hill up there. There are two or three hackberry and elm trees. And I say it come from there.
Galanor. Well, was there anything that led you to believe that the shots came from there?
Murphy. Yeah, smoke.
Galanor. You saw smoke?
Murphy. Sure did.
Galanor. Could you tell me exactly where you saw the smoke?
Murphy. Yeah, in that tree. (See Cover-up, 59)

Walter Winborn told me he saw "smoke that come out from under the trees on the right hand side of the motorcade." The FBI agents who interviewed Winborn for the Warren Commission, however, did not mention in their report that he had seen smoke on the knoll.

Galanor. Did you tell them about that, that you saw smoke on the grassy knoll?
Winborn. Oh yes. Oh yes.
Galanor. They didn’t include it in their report.
Winborn. Well.
Galanor. Do you have any idea why they didn’t?
Winborn. I don’t have any idea. They are specialists in their field, and I’m just an amateur. (See Cover-up, 60)



James Leon Simmons testimony at Shaw trial:

A: Well, he fell and there was matter and a halo of blood.
Q: Which way did he fall?
A: To his left.
Q: What did the limousine do then?
A: It paused and then accelerated real fast after the motorcycle got out the way.
Q: Did it go under the Triple Overpass?
A: Yes, sir, went directly under us.
Q: It went under you because you were standing on the overpass?
A: Yes, sir.
Q: At the time you saw this red halo, what did that appear to you to be?
A: To the left side of his head.
Q: Can you tell us what direction this went in, this matter?
A: It went over the side of the car.
Q: Which side of the car?
A: The left side.
Q: Now at the time you heard the second and third shot did you notice anything unusual in the area of the grassy knoll?
A: Well, after I heard the shots I looked to see if I could see where they were coming from and underneath the trees up on the grassy knoll by the fence I detected what appeared to be a puff of smoke or wisp of smoke.
Q: From which direction did these noises appear to come from?
A: In front and the left.

Then we have Aynesworth mitigating the smoke, turning it into Harkness' motorcycles exhaust. An physical and logistical impossibility.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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    "Mr. JOHNSON stated that white smoke was observed near the pavilion, but he felt that
     this smoke came from a motorcycle abandoned near the spot by a Dallas policeman."
So that statement therefor cancels out what three other guys ultimately said? I see ::)

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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How do you figure that?
Would you rather no consideration be given other potential sources of "smoke"?
I have considered many aspects and potential sources and you should know this.
Let's consider Mr Johnson's statements for what they offer....
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...He heard sounds that could have been shots. Mr. JOHNSON stated at that time he did not know that it was shots and he could not say how many shots he heard. His attention remained on the vehicle carrying President KENNEDY and he observed this car until it sped away. Mr. JOHNSON stated that white smoke was observed near the pavilion, but he felt that this smoke came from a motorcycle abandoned near the spot by a Dallas policeman.
Often... Report supporters claim that no officer had driven his bike all the way up the knoll to the pavilion like some have mentioned.
 I agree. Certainly no pictures show this. So how could a motorcycle that was not up by the pavilion be emitting smoke next to the pavilion?
Mr Johnson didn't seem to know that there was a shooting at all so he could not state where the shots [that he didn't hear] came from or how many there were.
Mr Johnson didn't seem to know anything and was not called to testify.
Some [as the guys I mentioned above] did see something of interest but they were not called to testify.
Oodles of people [too many to list] who didn't know anything were called to testify however.
So [as I figure] this non-investigation was nothing but a sham ;) 

Offline Jerry Freeman

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If we're going by the initial report of how Johnson described things ...
 James Simmons: Heard three shots from the direction of the Depository and saw "exhaust fumes of smoke". 
 
"If we're going by..."
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Simmons at the Shaw trial----A: Well, after I heard the shots I looked to see if I could see where they were coming from and underneath the trees up on the grassy knoll by the fence I detected what appeared to be a puff of smoke or wisp of smoke.
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Why wasn't the "smoke" under the trees, or a portion of it, captured in the Moorman photo, and the Muchmore and Nix films during the assassination?
You go by whatever you want. You always will anyway.



 

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But who knows? Smoke can travel.
Maybe the smoke in the pictures above came from a hamburger stand?

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Wow! along comes someone who still believes that's "smoke" in the Wiegman film.
 
 

 
Apparently...smoke is blown so far up your ass that you can't seem to ever get rid of it :D

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