PorchGate: What Marina really heard

[John Iacoletti]

>>> Are you suggesting that PJM's Marina and Lee is a work of fiction?

'After that, busy indoors, Marina frequently heard a clicking sound out on the porch while Lee was sitting there at dusk. She heard it three times a week, maybe more often, until the middle of September'  ? PJM, from 'Marina and Lee'

Nobody denies that Marina said she heard a clicking sound.

So not only are you assuming that he was practicing, you?re assuming that he didn?t want to be seen doing the thing you just assumed he was doing. Assumptions all around.
>>> You're assuming PJM's book is BS

Where does PJM?s book say that Lee didn?t want Marina to see what he was doing?

>>> 'complete lack of evidence' You denied some time ago that you ever said that the evidence was either faked, planted or altered. Seems you now changing that stance.

I denied ever saying that all the evidence was faked, planted or altered. But it doesn?t matter, because the ?evidence? doesn?t prove that Oswald shot Kennedy.

[Bill Chapman]

Is this character assassination supposed to be a substitute for your complete lack of evidence that he committed an actual assassination?

Don't hold your breath while awaiting Crapman's reply.....   I'll answer for him.....  Well of course, the painting of Lee Oswald as the Arch Villain has always been the prime tactic of the Warren Commission apologists.

'the painting of Lee Oswald'

Oswald painted his own portrait. With too much input from Mommy Dearest. It took 24 years.
He also painted a landscape of Dealey Plaza which took but a few seconds
Also did a quick sketch of Kennedy, which resulted in a still life.

Then performed a snuff-art thing at the Tippit scene.
Good turnout I heard, but closed after the one show.
Tried to improvise a replay in an indoor venue, but was thwarted by fate.

All of which resulted in an overly-extended black comedy, manure-fuelled by cranky old conspiracy-mongers.

[John Iacoletti]

'the painting of Lee Oswald'

Oswald painted his own portrait. With too much input from Mommy Dearest. It took 24 years.
He also painted a landscape of Dealey Plaza which took but a few seconds
Also did a quick sketch of Kennedy, which resulted in a still life.

Then performed a snuff-art thing at the Tippit scene.
Good turnout I heard, but closed after the one show.
Tried to improvise a replay in an indoor venue, but was thwarted by fate.

All of which resulted in an overly-extended black comedy, manure-fuelled by cranky old conspiracy-mongers.

Maybe if you say it enough times, you?ll believe it.

Probably.

[Bill Chapman]

Maybe if you say it enough times, you?ll believe it.

Probably.

Point out why I need to believe something. Especially coming from you lot.

And I suggest you change 'enough times' to 'enough ways' since that's the first time I've expressed myself using Oswald-as-artist.

[John Iacoletti]

Point out why I need to believe something. Especially coming from you lot.

I don?t know if you need to, but you do.

Probably.

Also, I?m not a lot.

And I suggest you change 'enough times' to 'enough ways' since that's the first time I've expressed myself using Oswald-as-artist.

You?re always making little cutesy remarks about Oswald being guilty, rather than talking about why you think he?s guilty. This is nothing new.

[Bill Chapman]

I don?t know if you need to, but you do.
>>> Translation, please. And what do I need to believe, exactly? What you say?
 

Probably.
>>> Ditto

Also, I?m not a lot.
>>> Huh?

You?re always making little cutesy remarks about Oswald being guilty, rather than talking about why you think he?s guilty. This is nothing new.
>>> 'Why can't you just open your eyes' goes the conspiracy-monger (and TAE) rant.

[John Iacoletti]

I don?t know if you need to, but you do.
>>> Translation, please. And what do I need to believe, exactly? What you say?

No, you believe that Oswald killed JFK. Probably. You just never articulate a reason why.

I don?t know if you need to believe that, but you do believe it. Probably.

Also, I?m not a lot.
>>> Huh?

You keep referring to me as ?you lot?. I am not a lot.

You?re always making little cutesy remarks about Oswald being guilty, rather than talking about why you think he?s guilty. This is nothing new.
>>> 'Why can't you just open your eyes' goes the conspiracy-monger (and TAE) rant.

Cite me ever using that phrase, here or there. Do you think believing things on faith is a virtue? Or do you need reasons to believe things? If you don?t, then why join a discussion forum? Just for the cutesy remarks?

[Bill Chapman]

No, you believe that Oswald killed JFK. Probably. You just never articulate a reason why
>>> You're awfully needy for a guy who claims nothing points to Oswald as killer

I don?t know if you need to believe that, but you do believe it. Probably.
>>> You continue to weaponize the word 'believe' from your TAE foxhole.

You keep referring to me as ?you lot?. I am not a lot.
>>> I know what I call you characters. You just don't appear to know what 'you lot' means.

Cite me ever using that phrase, here or there.
>>> Are you saying you had no input in analyzing the lyrics to the TAE website theme song?

"What will it take for you
To start opening your eyes"
--- Shelley Segal

Do you think believing things on faith is a virtue?
>>>  I personally do not take anything at face value. Do you take anomaly-hunting and seeing every last bit of minutae as sinister and loaded with malicious intent as a virtue?

Or do you need reasons to believe things? If you don?t, then why join a discussion forum? Just for the cutesy remarks?
>>> Your continued need to diminish my take on the events (and in the way I often express that take) is duly noted.