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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #24 on: January 16, 2021, 01:35:35 PM »
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It took me many years before I realized the Hesters (probably) moved the bench from the shelter entry closer to the street at the edge of the patio after Zapruder filmed them with Sitzman. Presumably, to have a better view up Elm.

Yes, it does appear that way. Just guessing, but I wouldn’t think that the normal position for that bench was blocking the entrance to the shelter (as it was in the Zapruder film). So they probably moved it to that location (from its normal spot) initially.

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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #25 on: January 16, 2021, 02:53:50 PM »
The Bench as seen in Bothun
annotation credit: Martin Hinrichs.

« Last Edit: January 16, 2021, 02:54:44 PM by Robin Unger »

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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #26 on: January 16, 2021, 03:12:03 PM »
The Bench as seen in Bothun
annotation credit: Martin Hinrichs.



Any ideas on who that is standing behind the bench?

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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #27 on: January 16, 2021, 03:24:31 PM »
There were two kids with white shoulder strips on there jackets;
I am pretty sure they are under the Stemmons sign in Willis 5.

Here they are in Cabluck.


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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2021, 03:35:26 PM »
There were two kids with white shoulder strips on there jackets;
I am pretty sure they are under the Stemmons sign in Willis 5.

Here they are in Cabluck.



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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #29 on: January 16, 2021, 05:18:58 PM »
Yes, it does appear that way. Just guessing, but I wouldn’t think that the normal position for that bench was blocking the entrance to the shelter (as it was in the Zapruder film). So they probably moved it to that location (from its normal spot) initially.
No big deal. I think if they left the bench there and sitting on it that the wall attached to the east pedestal would block much of their view. Anyway, I just wanted an excuse to make this overlay with a similar view I shot in November 2019.

Also, you may notice that a section of that wall was removed a few? years ago to allow paved access for wheelchairs.   


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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #30 on: January 16, 2021, 05:40:03 PM »
No big deal. I think if they left the bench there and sitting on it that the wall attached to the east pedestal would block much of their view. Anyway, I just wanted an excuse to make this overlay with a similar view I shot in November 2019.

Also, you may notice that a section of that wall was removed a few? years ago to allow paved access for wheelchairs.   




Yeah, we didn’t have the ADA back in 1963.

Do you remember where you were standing when you took the 2019 photo? It appears that it might be a slightly different angle (based on the offset alignment of the openings in the back and side of the shelter.

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Re: Marilyn Sitzman and Beatrice Hester Down the Knoll in Skaggs09
« Reply #31 on: January 16, 2021, 05:50:24 PM »

Yeah, we didn’t have the ADA back in 1963.

Do you remember where you were standing when you took the 2019 photo? It appears that it might be a slightly different angle (based on the offset alignment of the openings in the back and side of the shelter.
I was standing very near south northeast corner of the Z pedestal probably less than a foot or two, but on the patio not the pedestal. I didn't have a reference image for comparison, so that was only an opportunity shot.
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