Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders

[Jerry Organ]

http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?docId=40395&relPageId=86

Lillian Mooneyham
a.Dallas County clerk watching motorcade from Judge King's windows on the second floor, southwest corner, Criminal
Courts Building, with Mrs. Rose Clark and Jeanette hooker.
b.Heard three shots(?)
c.Heard first shot;saw President slump; thought it was Firecracker.
d.Second and third shots were closer together.
e.Saw Mrs. Kennedy climb on back of car.
f.Mooneyham went Judge Hyer's windows on the third floor of Records Building.
g.People running to pergola.
h.41/2 to 5 minutes after shots she sees man standing behind some boxes on the 6th floor, TSBD.

    "Mrs. MOONEYHAM estimated that it was about 4 to 5 minutes following the shots fired
     by the assassin that she looked up towards the sixth floor of the TSBD and observed
     the figure of a man standing in a sixth floor window behind some cardboard boxes."

Mooneyham doesn't specify she saw the man in the SN window.

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http://www.maryferrell.org/mffweb/archive/viewer/showDoc.do?mode=searchResult&absPageId=69117

"The panel studied two photographs taken within minutes of the assassination. While no human face or form could be detected
in the sixth floor southeast window, the panel was able to conclude that a stack of boxes had been rearranged during the
interval of the taking of the two photographs."

The interval the panel refers to is between the taking of the Powell and Dillard photographs, and so has nothing to do with Mooneyham's obversation four to five minutes after that. The panel thought the sunlit boxes in the background seen in the open window in Powell were added to the scene when compared with the Dillard photograph take a minute before. But 3D demonstrates the sunlit boxes are the same in both photographs.



The box-rearrangment claim was the only conclusion in the HSCA Photographic Panel report that HSCA consultant Robert Groden didn't take issue with.

[John Iacoletti]

Too bad Oswald's rifle was found on the same floor

You mean the rifle with questionable documentation, which you can not show was ever in Ruth Paine's garage and which Marina, according to her first day affidavit, couldn't identify? Is that the rifle you mean?

the actual Murder Weapon

And you know this, how?

He doesn't.  He thinks that if he repeats the same claim over and over again that it somehow becomes "evidence".

[John Iacoletti]

The panel thought the sunlit boxes in the background seen in the open window in Powell were added to the scene when compared with the Dillard photograph take a minute before. But 3D demonstrates the sunlit boxes are the same in both photographs.

Are you suggesting that the HSCA photographic panel didn't understand simple perspective?  Wouldn't that call their other conclusions into question?

[Jerry Organ]

Are you suggesting that the HSCA photographic panel didn't understand simple perspective?

Maybe the Panel would accept the 3D study. Maybe not. What I know for sure is that a good many conspiracy kooks don't, as they keep trotting-out the box-rearrangement claim.

[John Mytton]

Are you suggesting that the HSCA photographic panel didn't understand simple perspective?  Wouldn't that call their other conclusions into question?

Wouldn't that call their other conclusions into question?

WHAT? Another illogical self serving Iacoletti generalization but sure if you want, go ahead and discard all their studies of multiple photographs showing cardboard box positioning.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

WHAT? Another illogical self serving Iacoletti generalization but sure if you want, go ahead and discard all their studies of multiple photographs showing cardboard box positioning.

Did they or did they not conclude that the boxes were repositioned after the shooting?  Do you agree with their conclusion?

[Bill Brown]

Thanks Bill, this thread was becoming yet another "paper bag" thread, because it seems that the CTs can't deal with your powerful evidence that places Oswald directly in the middle of the sniper's nest.

JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

Did they or did they not conclude that the boxes were repositioned after the shooting?  Do you agree with their conclusion?

After the fingerprinting, or before?