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Offline Thomas Graves

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« Reply #56 on: May 18, 2019, 01:52:48 AM »
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Hi Bill, you won't be getting an answer to that question any time soon. See the post before yours...Caprio's been suspended AGAIN. LOL  :D :D

Do the drawings accurately depict each and every wrinkle in the bag, or at least come reasonably close?

(Just wondering)

-- MWT  :)

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Offline Ross Lidell

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« Reply #57 on: May 18, 2019, 03:50:38 AM »


And yet another meaningless coincidence that the corner of the bag where the rifle fore-stock would have been, has the most severe wrinkles.



Nice graphic work (as usual) Jerry. The images are illuminating. In the 1967 CBS Investigation of the Warren Report: A scrunched area at the top of the bag corresponds with the way Dan Rather closed it tight to demonstrate how Oswald could have carried it. If Oswald had carried the bottom of the bag cupped in the palm of his hand and the top through his armpit forward of his body: It explains why Buell Frazier failed to see the narrower (scrunched) portion of the bag above his shoulder.
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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #58 on: May 18, 2019, 04:35:20 AM »
Nice graphic work (as usual) Jerry. The images are illuminating. In the 1967 CBS Investigation of the Warren Report: A scrunched area at the top of the bag corresponds with the way Dan Rather closed it tight to demonstrate how Oswald could have carried it. If Oswald had carried the bottom of the bag cupped in the palm of his hand and the top through his armpit forward of his body: It explains why Buell Frazier failed to see the narrower (scrunched) portion of the bag above his shoulder.

Above his shoulder, or above his armpit?

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Offline Ross Lidell

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« Reply #59 on: May 18, 2019, 04:53:49 AM »
Above his shoulder, or above his armpit?

Shoulder. As Dan Rather walked away in the direction of the TSBD: the top of the paper bag (scrunched) could be seen above his right shoulder.

Viewers could see the portion of the bag above Rather's shoulder as our attention was drawn to it by his statement. Buell Frazier was probably not looking closely (directly at Oswald?) and could have missed seeing it. 
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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #60 on: May 18, 2019, 07:35:36 AM »


And yet another meaningless coincidence that the corner of the bag where the rifle fore-stock would have been, has the most severe wrinkles.



Thanks Jerry,
I don?t doubt the rifle was in that bag. My question was however ...."Were both ends of CE142 folded over and sealed to contain the disassembled carcano? If so does anyone have any pictures of the bag that demonstrate that was the case?

Does anyone think that Oswald would carry a rifle in a bag with an opened end after wrapping?

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Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #61 on: May 18, 2019, 05:18:37 PM »
Thanks Jerry,
I don?t doubt the rifle was in that bag. My question was however ...."Were both ends of CE142 folded over and sealed to contain the disassembled carcano? If so does anyone have any pictures of the bag that demonstrate that was the case?

Does anyone think that Oswald would carry a rifle in a bag with an opened end after wrapping?

Nice graphic Jerry

I have always wondered would the rifle have fit the length of the bag without the rifle being disassembled. The picture on the add and the add itself would have led LHO to believe his rifle was shorter than it really was. He received the rifle in the picture but they ae not 36" carcano's.  A 36" carcano is a Calvary Carcano and has a different appearance.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: Rolling Readers & Murdered Leaders
« Reply #62 on: May 18, 2019, 05:35:38 PM »
Thanks Jerry,
I don?t doubt the rifle was in that bag. My question was however ...."Were both ends of CE142 folded over and sealed to contain the disassembled carcano? If so does anyone have any pictures of the bag that demonstrate that was the case?

Does anyone think that Oswald would carry a rifle in a bag with an opened end after wrapping?

The open end appears to have been folded over much like one would fold over the open end of a paper lunch bag.

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« Reply #63 on: May 18, 2019, 09:52:10 PM »
@Newbies

A too-small blanket-fiber population was found in the gun bag which Stombaugh testified would very likely have been multiplied to a level identifying the Carcano as being in the blanket found in Paine's garage but for the fingerprint dusting in effect brushing away any needed extra fibres. Not-to-mention the blanket was threadbare to begin with, although it did produce evidence of Oswald's 'short & curlies'.
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