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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #320 on: June 25, 2019, 11:49:10 PM »
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Yep, Oswald's revolver was sent to Oswald's PO Box number, the same revolver that was exclusively connected to the shells that were seen being discarded by Oswald at the Tippit crime scene and the same revolver that Oswald was arrested with.

Oswald had no revolver at the time of his arrest, if ever.  Also this revolver was allegedly sent to a Railway Express office, not a PO box.  Also, the shells that were matched to this revolver were handed to the police by civilians.  You're just assuming they were "discarded by Oswald at the Tippit crime scene".

None of your speculative assumptions make it "Oswald's revolver".

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #321 on: June 25, 2019, 11:50:26 PM »
You mean the guy who said that we need to convince the public that Oswald is the real assassin?

What did Hoover have to work with?

Oswald ordered a Carcano rifle.
Oswald holding a Carcano rifle.
Oswald's carcano rifle on the 6th floor.
Oswald's shirt fibers on Carcano rifle.
Oswald has no alibi.
Oswald's killing a Police Officer.
Oswald's trying to kill more Police Officers.

And you reckon there was a reason to doubt that Oswald was the real assassin?

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #322 on: June 25, 2019, 11:50:46 PM »
After the fact many Americans want to insert themselves into history but that doesn't change the actual evidence.

After the fact, many police officers want to insert themselves into history -- one even selling photos of himself labeled "captor of Oswald".  But that doesn't change the actual evidence.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #323 on: June 25, 2019, 11:56:57 PM »
What did Hoover have to work with?

Oswald ordered a Carcano rifle.

No, unscientific and biased handwriting "analysis" of 2 block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a 2-inch order coupon said that Oswald ordered a similar, but not identical, rifle.

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Oswald holding a Carcano rifle.

There's nothing uniquely identifying this as a Carcano, much less a particular Carcano.

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Oswald's carcano rifle on the 6th floor.

Based on a previously flawed assumptiom

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Oswald's shirt fibers on Carcano rifle.

No.  Similar fibers that can't be uniquely connected to any particular shirt.

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Oswald has no alibi.

As do at least 6 other people in the TSBD alone.

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Oswald's killing a Police Officer.

Oswald's trying to kill more Police Officers.

Both claims assume facts not in evidence.

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And you reckon there was a reason to doubt that Oswald was the real assassin?

Yes.  When you have to misrepresent the evidence to make your argument then you have no argument.  Even if you could prove that Oswald ever possessed this particular rifle (and you can't), that doesn't prove that he shot JFK with it.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #324 on: June 25, 2019, 11:59:45 PM »
After the fact, many police officers want to insert themselves into history -- one even selling photos of himself labeled "captor of Oswald".  But that doesn't change the actual evidence.

What point are you trying to make?, McDonald was actually there when Oswald was captured, other Police Officers testified that McDonald was the one who approached Oswald.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #325 on: June 26, 2019, 12:03:46 AM »
No, unscientific and biased handwriting "analysis" of 2 block letters on a photo of a microfilm copy of a 2-inch order coupon said that Oswald ordered a similar, but not identical, rifle.

There's nothing uniquely identifying this as a Carcano, much less a particular Carcano.

Based on a previously flawed assumptiom

No.  Similar fibers that can't be uniquely connected to any particular shirt.

As do at least 6 other people in the TSBD alone.

Both claims assume facts not in evidence.

Yes.  When you have to misrepresent the evidence to make your argument then you have no argument.  Even if you could prove that Oswald ever possessed this particular rifle (and you can't), that doesn't prove that he shot JFK with it.

What are you babbling about, we're not talking about what you perceive to be evidence but we're talking about the evidence that Hoover had access to and as every investigation about the JFK Assassination since has since shown us, Hoover's initial statement was spot on.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #326 on: June 26, 2019, 12:21:13 AM »
What point are you trying to make?, McDonald was actually there when Oswald was captured, other Police Officers testified that McDonald was the one who approached Oswald.

Approach equals capture?

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #327 on: June 26, 2019, 12:22:18 AM »
What are you babbling about, we're not talking about what you perceive to be evidence but we're talking about the evidence that Hoover had access to and as every investigation about the JFK Assassination since has since shown us, Hoover's initial statement was spot on.

"Hoover said it, I believe it, and that settles it".

Interesting way of determining what's actually true.

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Re: CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?
« Reply #327 on: June 26, 2019, 12:22:18 AM »