CT's, how did Oswald's rifle end up on the 6th floor?

[Walt Cakebread]

Some of us just aren't seeing how the two photos by themselves automatically "prove" there was no hole at the elbow.


The right shirt sleeve may be twisted such that the area of wear at the elbow is at the inner bent of the elbow rather than the outer bend, or at some other area of the shirt not in camera view.

It may very well be there is no hole in the elbow and that Oswald changed his shirt at the boarding house. It may be otherwise. I suppose it's important as "no hole" means the authorities created one. I wouldn't rule that out for a Southern police force.

It's a piece o cake to measure the distance from the cuff to the hole in the elbow of the shirt, In the evidence photo...and measure the distance from the cuff to Lee's elbow in the photos of Lee being lead through the police station.

[Gary Craig]

[John Mytton]

Apparently you've never worn a shirt that had a hole worn at the elbow..... I can tell you. ( and I'm sure there are others) that when there is a hole in the sleeve at the elbow when the arm is bent as Lee's is in the photo, the elbow usually pops out of the hole.

No, you're not comparing apples with apples, a hole in a shirt elbow is created when there is friction at the elbow which is usually when your elbows are resting on something, not when your arms are in the air. Doh!

In this arrest pic Oswald's arm is up and in addition the cuffs are restricting movement and dragging the shirt further down.
The red outline simulates the amount of shirt which would be seen when hanging naturally. Also note the amount of bunching in the area between the elbow and shoulder.



Here we see how a generic long sleeve shirt hangs at the wrist and as can be easily seen the above image shows the cuff way down Oswald's forearm.



JohnM

[Walt Cakebread]

No, you're not comparing apples with apples, a hole in a shirt elbow is created when there is friction at the elbow which is usually when your elbows are resting on something, not when your arms are in the air. Doh!

In this arrest pic Oswald's arm is up and in addition the cuffs are restricting movement and dragging the shirt further down.
The red outline simulates the amount of shirt which would be seen when hanging naturally. Also note the amount of bunching in the area between the elbow and shoulder.



Here we see how a generic long sleeve shirt hangs at the wrist and as can be easily seen the above image shows the cuff way down Oswald's forearm.



JohnM

Mr Mytton, I will not debate you....  You are totally dishonest, and  there is no point in debating a person who is totally dishonest.

[Gary Craig]

https://www.maryferrell.org/photos.html?set=NARA-OSWCLOTHES
That looks like a hole in the right arm of the shirt. (inside the red circle)

[Martin Weidmann]

https://www.maryferrell.org/photos.html?set=NARA-OSWCLOTHES
That looks like a hole in the right arm of the shirt. (inside the red circle)

That looks like a hole in the right arm of the shirt.

Bledsoe did not mention the hole in her DPD affidavit.

She did however mention it in her testimony, but that was after they had shown her the actual shirt at her home.

[Walt Cakebread]

That looks like a hole in the right arm of the shirt.

Bledsoe did not mention the hole in her DPD affidavit.

She did however mention it in her testimony, but that was after they had shown her the actual shirt at her home.

Yes, there is a hole in the elbow of that shirt.....  However I don't believe that is the shirt that Lee was wearing when he was dragged from the theater.

I can't be certain but isn't that a scale at the bottom of the shirt?....   Is it in inches or centimeters?   It could be used to determine the distance from the cuff to the hole...   And If you know the width of the cuff it could be determined if that hole should appear in the photo of Lee being led through the police station with the sleeve stretched against his elbow.     

[Walt Cakebread]

That is NOT Lee Oswald......These photos were created after Lee was lynched.....