Users Currently Browsing This Topic:
0 Members

Author Topic: Motive  (Read 24965 times)

Offline Thomas Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2693
Re: Motive
« Reply #112 on: June 21, 2019, 06:43:38 AM »
Advertisement
Frazier's Service rifle was 44.3 inches and Frazier recalls the length as 30 some odd inches long.
How come Frazier doesn't pinpoint the very familiar M14 with a measly one-inch increment, not only does Frazier give a vaguely approximate answer, his answer appears to be about a foot off.

At the London TV Trial, Frazier while under oath admits that the rifle could have been sticking out in front.


In the following graphic by Jerry Organ, Frazier may have seen the following and just assumed that Oswald carried the rifle from his cuoped hand to his armpit. Btw I'm 6'2" and the measurement of my cupped hand to my armpit is about 22 inches.



JohnM

How the hell could Frazier mistake a package only 20 inches long (capable, maybe, of being carried by 5' 9.5" Oswald between his armpit and his cupped hand) and a package almost 35 inches long?

-- MWT  ;)

PS  Was Oswald broad-shouldered and thick-armed like that mannequin?
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 07:00:47 AM by Thomas Graves »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Motive
« Reply #112 on: June 21, 2019, 06:43:38 AM »


Offline Colin Crow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1860
Re: Motive
« Reply #113 on: June 21, 2019, 06:51:17 AM »
Who wants to be known as the guy who could have prevented a Presidential assassination because he didn't report an obviously suspicious package of about 35 inches?

JohnM

If Oswald had only taken the rifle in the blanket. After all Michael Paine had even handled that object and assumed it to be camping equipment. No need for talk of curtain rods and disassembling the MC into an ill fitting wrapper.

Offline Thomas Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2693
Re: Motive
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2019, 07:09:26 AM »
Who wants to be known as the guy who could have prevented a Presidential assassination because he didn't report an obviously suspicious package of about 35 inches?

Well, it may very well go down that way, Buell Old Boy.

I forgot to mention that since Oswald got out of the car (presumably with his little bundle) and waited some distance away while Frazier fast-idled his old Ford, and started walking ahead of him after Frazier had finished doing that about five minutes later, Frazier probably had plenty of opportunity to see just how long that sucker was before they started walking.

-- MWT   ;)

Buell a life-long Republican, btw?

LOL
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 08:00:13 AM by Thomas Graves »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Motive
« Reply #114 on: June 21, 2019, 07:09:26 AM »


Offline Thomas Graves

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2693
Re: Motive
« Reply #115 on: June 21, 2019, 08:04:48 AM »
It seems to me in retrospect that Buell Wesley Frazier would have been better off in the long run if he'd told the authorities the package Oswald was carrying was about three feet long, and yes, he thought it contained curtain rods, and no, he had no idea whatsoever that JFK was going to be passing by the TSBD at lunchtime that day.

Don't you agree that that would have been more plausible than what he did say?

LOL

-- MWT  ;)
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 09:16:01 AM by Thomas Graves »

Offline Bill Chapman

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6513
Re: Motive
« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2019, 11:07:11 AM »
If Oswald had only taken the rifle in the blanket. After all Michael Paine had even handled that object and assumed it to be camping equipment. No need for talk of curtain rods and disassembling the MC into an ill fitting wrapper.

He took part of the blanket with him  ;)
And yeah, no talk between Paine, Marina and Oswald about any damn curtain rods that night.
« Last Edit: June 21, 2019, 11:17:12 AM by Bill Chapman »

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Motive
« Reply #116 on: June 21, 2019, 11:07:11 AM »


Online Richard Smith

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5282
Re: Motive
« Reply #117 on: June 21, 2019, 12:11:41 PM »
If Oswald had only taken the rifle in the blanket. After all Michael Paine had even handled that object and assumed it to be camping equipment. No need for talk of curtain rods and disassembling the MC into an ill fitting wrapper.

How so?  He would still have to explain to Frazier what he was doing carry a long package whether it was a wrapped up blanket or paper. 

Online Charles Collins

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3792
Re: Motive
« Reply #118 on: June 21, 2019, 01:56:38 PM »
If Oswald had only taken the rifle in the blanket. After all Michael Paine had even handled that object and assumed it to be camping equipment. No need for talk of curtain rods and disassembling the MC into an ill fitting wrapper.

I believe that he left the blanket laying where it had been stored for a reason. That is so if anyone (especially Marina since she knew about the rifle) went into the garage after he had removed the rifle, and before the assassination, they wouldn't see the blanket missing, put it together with the Presidential motorcade, and become alarmed and possibly call the authorities to attempt to stop him.

Offline Colin Crow

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1860
Re: Motive
« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2019, 03:24:31 PM »
Don’t see a WC exhibit number for this one. Is it a fake?



No WCE number for this one it seems. Anyone know why not?

JFK Assassination Forum

Re: Motive
« Reply #119 on: June 21, 2019, 03:24:31 PM »