What physics reveals about the JFK event

[Matt Grantham]

Alvarez was shot down by whom. exactly?

I am not sure what you mean by "prove it"?  Are we operating in the real world or in the pseudo-scientific world of your imagination?  I have explained to you that conservation of momentum requires the head to recoil from the forward ejection of matter from the head.  What more are you looking for? Proof of Newton's laws of motion?

 Alvarez was shot down by Szamboti


 As to proving "it" the question was in regard to you proving the jet effects applicability to the head shot to JFK.

[Andrew Mason]

Alvarez was shot down by Szamboti


 As to proving "it" the question was in regard to you proving the jet effects applicability to the head shot to JFK.

Are you saying that the forward momentum of the matter ejected from the head does not impart an equal and opposite momentum to the head?  Are you asking us to prove Newton's third law of motion?

[Matt Grantham]

No. Are you capable of answering clear questions?

[Matt Grantham]

You might want to check out what their gelatin formulation was.

 I heard it was called watermelon helper

 Was the military in on some conspiracy to use sub standard gels?

 I thought you were the one arguing against being too demanding on exacting standards of reproductions of the head shot? I am now confused about your standards

[Andrew Mason]

  I find the experiments at the  U.S. Army's Edgewood Arsenal to be superior to shooting watermelons in relevance to shooting skulls. Do you feel differently? I have made no request to go further in terms of exacting testing, but I suppose it is nice polemic to cl;aim otherwise

Did any of the goats shot in those experiments undergo explosive head exit wounds or explosive exit wounds of any kind? If not, what is the relevance to the physics of the explosive head wound?

[Matt Grantham]

 Shall we have a battle of questions that no one answers? You might find it instructive to respond to things that were actually said For example, their is no mention of explosive head wounds to which you responded with references about explosive head wounds Just sayin

[Matt Grantham]

The science of ballistics in 1964 wasn't that advanced such that they had a specific simulant  for human brain.
The melon experiments demonstrate the principal of "jet effect", which is what is seen in Z313ff. If you're after a duplication of the Kennedy head wound dynamics, you'll need an elaborate model with a bone-like casing and ballistic gel that simulates the human brain.

 Are you saying a melon is a better representation of the dynamics than a skull with a below average brain substitute?

[Matt Grantham]

No. One has no hard tissue simulant. The other has a unsuitable brain simulant. One demonstrates the "jet effect". The other demonstrates the fracture pattern of a bullet to the rear of a skull.

Neither are a true duplication of the Kennedy head wound. But I'm pretty sure that no matter how close a future duplication is, CTs will always find fault with it. Andrew's science is definitely making no dent and I don't see where you've refuted it.

If not a shot from behind and above caused the entry wound on the top-back of the President's skull and "jet effect" from the same shot caused the explosive blow-out seen about the right ear and 313ff rearward motion, then please explain what did.

 Yes the jet effect exists in melons. That is as far as either of you have ever gotten The thread should be re-titled what melons say about the JFK head shot, and how just repeating momentum is never created lost as a backup mantra can make for an impenetrable truth claim. Bye bye