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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #56 on: October 22, 2019, 09:52:27 PM »
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This is the inscription on the reverse side...does anyone know what the initials represent?



WCE 508 was shown to Luke Mooney during his WC testimony. If it is CE 142 the shot must be taken before 3pm as Montgomery took it to City Hall  and entered it into evidence at 3.20 (from memory).

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #57 on: October 22, 2019, 09:56:39 PM »
I think it just says "JFK"

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #58 on: October 22, 2019, 11:46:06 PM »
Thanks John.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #59 on: October 23, 2019, 12:59:11 AM »
So, both the CE508 (photo of a recreated sniper nest) and photo of the wrap in front of the TSBD were taken by William Allen, Dallas Times Herald photographer, HOURS after 12:30PM. If you compare Sun shadows between DPD photos and William Allen photos you will see huge time difference.
I absolutely have no doubt that the object seen in CE508 is exactly the CE142 which makes the DPD investigation and all the testimonies more twisted and doubted which makes me only to conclude that CE142 has nothing to do with the rifle or Oswald.
DPD did not take the photo of the wrap but we see it on a photo hours later while they were "recreating" the scene. Well, they might recreated the wrap as well.

Patrick, I don't see this listed under Allen in Robin's gallery. The original pic is WCE 503. WCE 508 is the same but has a dark arrow added.

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #60 on: October 23, 2019, 01:10:50 AM »
The bag was measured to be 38 inches.



If we knew the exact size of the box in front and by allowing for the angle of the bag then we could calculate the length of the bag.
By using some photogrammetry basics, the bag appears to be about 3 times the width of the box in front.



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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #61 on: October 23, 2019, 03:42:33 AM »
Studebaker's kit (?) circled in red.....


Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #62 on: October 23, 2019, 05:01:50 AM »
The bag was photographed being brought out the front of the Depository at 2:19 p.m. (Trask, Pictures of the Pain, p. 338)
http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm
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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2019, 05:38:06 AM »
Studebaker's kit (?) circled in red.....



Here's a vintage Police fingerprint kit and I see some similarities to the object circled in your photo, so yeah it could be an evidence/fingerprint kit?



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Re: When was CE142 discovered in the 6th floor SN?
« Reply #63 on: October 23, 2019, 05:38:06 AM »