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Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #32 on: June 23, 2019, 08:34:49 PM »
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Anywhere but Texas, would be my bet.

According to Wade, by law, the trial would have to be held in Texas. I haven’t verified that, but I think that you might want to research the law before you actually make that request. 😉

The indictment of Lee Harvey Oswald was for the murder of John F. Kennedy.

There was no Federal law regrading murdering the President of the United States.

The trial would have to be in Texas.

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #33 on: June 23, 2019, 08:49:04 PM »
The indictment of Lee Harvey Oswald was for the murder of John F. Kennedy.

There was no Federal law regrading murdering the President of the United States.

The trial would have to be in Texas.

Thank you.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #34 on: June 23, 2019, 08:51:43 PM »
I haven’t verified that

perhaps you should verified it first and then comment on it   Thumb1:

For your sake?   :D

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #35 on: June 23, 2019, 09:34:50 PM »
The indictment of Lee Harvey Oswald was for the murder of John F. Kennedy.

There was no Federal law regrading murdering the President of the United States.

The trial would have to be in Texas.
True, but there was (and is) a Federal law against murder. Here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1111

The question would be who had jurisdiction to prosecute Oswald. Since it was on Texas property it was a state crime. Had Oswald shot JFK on federal property - say at the White House - he would have been prosecuted for murder by the federal government.

Bugliosi also pointed out that if there was evidence that he conspired to murder JFK then the Federal government - not just Texas - would have had jurisdiction to charge him with conspiracy to murder. So he could have been charged with conspiracy to murder by the state of Texas AND conspiracy to murder by the Federal government. The Supreme Court just ruled that is allowed because they are two separate sovereigns (thus, double jeopardy does apply would not have applied if he was found innocent in Texas).
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #36 on: June 23, 2019, 09:47:31 PM »
True, but there was (and is) a Federal law against murder. Here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1111

The question would be who had jurisdiction to prosecute Oswald. Since it was on Texas property it was a state crime. Had Oswald shot JFK on federal property - say at the White House - he would have been prosecuted for murder by the federal government.

And as Bugliosi pointed out, if there was evidence that he conspired to murder JFK then the Federal government - not just Texas - would have had jurisdiction to charge him with conspiracy to murder. So he could have been charged with conspiracy to murder by the state of Texas AND conspiracy to murder by the Federal government. The Supreme Court just ruled that is allowed because they are two separate sovereign (thus, double jeopardy does apply if he was found innocent in Texas).

Steve,

Would that law (1963) have been legislated to account for Washington DC which is not a State but is a separate part of the USA?

Military installations could also be subject to Federal Law not State's.

Was there any evidence (not speculation) discovered between November 22 - 24 November 1963 that would prove Lee Harvey Oswald conspired with a person or group to murder John F. Kennedy?

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #37 on: June 23, 2019, 10:29:32 PM »
In a 1999 interview Robert Oswald told me Lee was looking forward to a trial and would have confessed.  I asked him how he knew this. He responded “I know my brother”.  For what it’s worth.

Yep.

Robert Oswald/ PBS interview
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/interview-robert-oswald/


Offline Ross Lidell

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #38 on: June 23, 2019, 11:53:56 PM »
Showing the residues from the muzzle blast of a rifle. Oswald's rifle did not have muzzle blast/baffle protection. The overpressure from a shorter barrel than the cartridge was designed for increases the effect.


This is way off-topic. Start a new SUBJECT: Muzzle blast etc.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2019, 12:37:11 AM »
For your sake?   :D

No for your own

It seems a bit stupid to first make a claim and only later check if it's actually true
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