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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #72 on: June 26, 2019, 05:51:45 PM »
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Tell that to the members of his fan club who call his "exaggerations" evidence.

By the way, when did he say this?  It this another one of your "if memory serves" claims?

You should be the one concerned with memory

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #73 on: June 26, 2019, 05:53:06 PM »
You should be the one concerned with memory

I'll take that as an "I don't know".

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2019, 05:58:20 PM »
I'll take that as an "I don't know".

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You don't

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #74 on: June 26, 2019, 05:58:20 PM »


Online Richard Smith

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2019, 08:19:49 PM »
It demonstrates foreknowledge that he might be killed or arrested that day.

No it doesn't

Btw have you figured out already why the trial against Clay Shaw, as a conspirator in Kennedy's murder, was held in New Orleans, when, as you rather pathetically claimed, the trial could only be held in Texas as the JFK murder fell under that state's jurisdiction?

LOL.  Try to figure out the difference for jurisdictional purposes.  Can you afford Roger Collins' fees for his legal advice on the topic?  Great contrarian argument on the ring "No it doesn't".  Whew.  Let's see.  Oswald leaves his wedding ring at home for the first and only time of his marriage on the very day he is arrested for assassinating the president and killing a police officer.  What bad luck for him if it was just a wild coincidence.  If leaving his wedding ring at home was the ONLY evidence against Oswald in those cases, it would not be very probative.  In the totality of all the evidence, however, (known as planet Earth) it becomes highly probative.  It points to foreknowledge of some event that day that might preclude him from ever seeing his family again. 

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2019, 09:50:07 PM »
LOL.  Try to figure out the difference for jurisdictional purposes.  Can you afford Roger Collins' fees for his legal advice on the topic?  Great contrarian argument on the ring "No it doesn't".  Whew.  Let's see.  Oswald leaves his wedding ring at home for the first and only time of his marriage on the very day he is arrested for assassinating the president and killing a police officer.  What bad luck for him if it was just a wild coincidence.  If leaving his wedding ring at home was the ONLY evidence against Oswald in those cases, it would not be very probative.  In the totality of all the evidence, however, (known as planet Earth) it becomes highly probative.  It points to foreknowledge of some event that day that might preclude him from ever seeing his family again.

The only thing it points to is your post-hoc rationalization.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #77 on: June 27, 2019, 12:36:09 AM »
LOL.  Try to figure out the difference for jurisdictional purposes.  Can you afford Roger Collins' fees for his legal advice on the topic?  Great contrarian argument on the ring "No it doesn't".  Whew.  Let's see.  Oswald leaves his wedding ring at home for the first and only time of his marriage on the very day he is arrested for assassinating the president and killing a police officer.  What bad luck for him if it was just a wild coincidence.  If leaving his wedding ring at home was the ONLY evidence against Oswald in those cases, it would not be very probative.  In the totality of all the evidence, however, (known as planet Earth) it becomes highly probative.  It points to foreknowledge of some event that day that might preclude him from ever seeing his family again.

The only thing I take away from your ramblings in response to my "no it doesn't" comment, which btw every reasonable, sane, person will agree with, is that you are paddling like a duck, hoping nobody will notice that you clearly are unable to answer my question. So, let's try this again, shall we?


You in your infinite wisdom stupidity wrote;


It still appears to elude you that there could be no change in venue from Texas to another state for a crime that was committed in Texas that violated Texas law (i.e. murder).   You may want to consult a lawyer like Roger Collins about why that is not an option.


to which I replied;


It seems to elude you two clowns that my comment had nothing to do with the content of the message and everything with the silly way it was presented.

As to the content itself; anybody who equates a change of venue to an automatic change of jurisdiction doesn't know the first thing about the law.

I'm not going to go into it too much as that would mean risking losing these two "legal scholars" along the way pretty qiuckly, but I will ask them this very simple question;

If the murder of JFK falls under the jurisdiction of the state of Texas, why was Clay Shaw, who was charged as a conspirator in Kennedy's murder, put on trial in New Orleans?

Any answers?


Well, Richard, since you claimed there was no other option but to have a trial in Texas, please explain to us why Clay Shaw, who was indeed charged as a consiprator in Kennedy's murder in Texas, was on trial in New Orleans?


Offline Denis Pointing

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #78 on: June 27, 2019, 01:10:48 AM »
Well, Richard, since you claimed there was no other option but to have a trial in Texas, please explain to us why Clay Shaw, who was indeed charged as a consiprator in Kennedy's murder in Texas, was on trial in New Orleans?

Martin, Clay Shaw was arrested and charged in New Orleans on March 1, 1967, on conspiracy of murdering Kennedy. The murder was carried out in Texas but the actual conspiracy took place in New Orleans.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2019, 01:24:47 AM »
Martin, Clay Shaw was arrested and charged in New Orleans on March 1, 1967, on conspiracy of murdering Kennedy. The murder was carried out in Texas but the actual conspiracy took place in New Orleans.

...actual conspiracy took place in New Orleans.

...alleged conspiracy supposedly took place in New Orleans.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2019, 01:24:47 AM »