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Online Charles Collins

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #160 on: July 03, 2019, 10:05:25 PM »
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Charles,

Why don't you like the sniper's nest scenario (including shooting positions and the expended cartridges' resting places) as spelled out in The Lost Bullet?
 
Have you even watched it?

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I watched it years ago but don’t remember much about the details. I will watch it again and let you know.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #161 on: July 03, 2019, 10:15:59 PM »
I watched it years ago but don’t remember much about the details. I will watch it again and let you know.

Here's a summary:

Hey if a shooter took shots at these particular times from these particular positions and ejected the shells then they might have bounced off these boxes and ended up in sort of similar locations as the shells in these photos that may or may not have been taken before Fritz picked the shells up and threw them back down.

Offline John Mytton

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #162 on: July 03, 2019, 10:22:19 PM »
Here's a summary:

Hey if a shooter took shots at these particular times from these particular positions and ejected the shells then they might have bounced off these boxes and ended up in sort of similar locations as the shells in these photos

We know the head shot and we know that Kennedy must have been struck while he was behind the sign and those two bullet casings are the two closest to Oswald, the third shell was further away and this is because the rifle was pointed more forward and is consistent of an earlier shot as confirmed by the Willis girl who stops and turns because as she said, she heard a shot.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #163 on: July 03, 2019, 10:51:00 PM »
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PS  Uh oh. I see Scully's still cuttin'-and-pastin' together an entertainin' "post" for us, here.

Been workin' on it for at least twenty minutes ...

I thought this thread was about hypothetical criminal defense strategy in a hypothetical Oswald criminal trial.

I post only verifiable facts. You didn't challenge any of them. You instead opted for the last refuge of a scoundrel.
Are you objecting to the fact "police character" RD Matthews AND WC witness Mary Bledsoe, coached by  SS agent Sorrels
happened to both be first cousins of Jake Germany because he was the son of Mary's uncle Jewell and RD Matthew's mother's
sister, Adelaide Senter? Or do you object to WC witness Virginia Davis lying about her age to conceal from DPD and WC her true
age of 15, or is your so far unvoiced bone of contention the fact William Whaley misrepresented his age...Whaley the exacting guy
who corrected Chief Justice Earl Warren for crediting Whaley with slightly less seniority at City Cab than Whaley actually testified to.

!930 US Census, Ennis, TX

The bottom name in the 1930 US census (image crop above) is the maternal grandma of both furure police character RD Matthews, AND also grandma of a first cousin of Mary Bledsoe, Jewell Jake Ralston Germany, Jr.:

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/79944838/ida-ann-senter
Ida Ann Senter
Birth 7 Mar 1868
Death 4 Dec 1944 (aged 76)
Burial Aspermont Cemetery Aspermont, Stonewall County, Texas, USA

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/87462676/jewell-rawlston-germany


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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/114133448/adelaide-s-germany
Adelaide S Germany
BIRTH   Apr 1898
DEATH   Jan 1986 (aged 87)
BURIAL   
Evergreen Memorial Park
Sumter, Sumter County, South Carolina, USA

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http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/whaley1.htm
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The CHAIRMAN. The witness has been driving a taxicab in Dallas for 36 years.
Mr. WHALEY. Thirty-seven, sir.
The CHAIRMAN. Thirty-seven. ....

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https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/13730776/william-wayne-whaley
William Wayne Whaley
19 Jun 1905 – 18 Dec 1965


What did cab driver Whaley do to become so completely estranged from his son and namesake?

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Albuquerque Journal from Albuquerque, New Mexico on October 30 ...
https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/157414971/

Oct 30, 1984 - SEALES Mr. Alvin S. Seales, age 73 and a resident here 21 years, died Monday in a local hospital following an illness. He is survived by his wife, Alice; a son William W. Whaley and wife Dorothy; granddaughter Jamy Whaley; grandson, William W. Whaley Jr. and wife Nancy, all of Albuquerque; a brother ..
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https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/157070315/
June 24, 1997........
WHALEY William Wayne Whaley, 65, passed away unexpectedly on June 18, 1997 in Michigan while on vacation. Husband of 43 years to Dorothy; father and father-in-law of Jamy and Gregg Peevy and Bill Jr. and Dee Whaley, all of Albuquerque; son of Alice (Pat) Scales of Albuquerque. Mr. Whaley retired from Us Alamos National Ubs in 1993 after 17 years. A memorial service will be held Wednesday, 3:00 p.m. at French Mortuary, Umas Blvd. Chapel, 10500 Umas NE. Cremation has taken place. In lieu of flowers, memorial contributions may be made to Noonday Ministry, P.O. Box 8769, Albuquerque, NM 87198 or New Mexico Boys and Girls Ranch, 6209 Hendrix NE, Albuquerque, NM 87110. French Mortuary, 10500 Umas NE. Church with Rev. Archie Parker officiating. Interment to follow at Santa Fe National Cemetery with Wilson Cox Jr., David Cox, David O'Dell Jr., Timoth O'Dell, Patrick O'Dell and Jon Palmer serving as pallbearers......

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Whaley was born in June, 1908 as recently as in the information displayed on his son William W Whaley, Jr's 1931 birth certificate, but since then he was born in 1905 although his parents married in 1907 according to Hopkins County, TX records and the same familoy bible that describes Whaley's birth as in 1908.
UPDATED: Whaley's 1942 Selective Service document indicates he may have written his birth date as June 19, 1908,
three years later than the date on his death certificate and gravestone.

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Actually, if you must know, I was replying to a PM. Here is the last line of my reply.:
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #164 on: July 04, 2019, 12:29:18 AM »
Thanks again, Charles.  It's difficult to tell because these images are small, but are these two images different views of the same placement?  In the top image, the shooter looks to be too far in the corner for his head to be visible from Brennan's position.  Also, it looks like the rifle is too far below his face to be aiming with the scope or the iron sights.  What angles are you using for the rifle barrel?

Also, it looks like the rifle is too far below his face to be aiming with the scope or the iron sights.

I don’t have any way to adjust the arms, legs, head, etc independently. So you have to use your own imagination to bend the neck so that his right eye is looking through the scope and his arms and legs are positioned properly. If someone knows of a suitable character that has those abilities, I would be happy to use it.

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Offline Colin Crow

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #165 on: July 04, 2019, 12:41:18 AM »
So, sitting on the window sill satisfies this requirement. Seems reasonable. Is there a problem with the window opening far enough? Would the window need to be fully raised to allow this or was it still low when this occurred?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #166 on: July 04, 2019, 12:50:19 AM »


It appears to me that he was most likely sitting on the box on the floor just inside the window. And this would have to be before he placed the two smaller boxes above that box. His head would be above the bottom of the half open window and he could see through the glass. Since this was before the motorcade arrived, he wouldn’t be shooting, just observing.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #167 on: July 04, 2019, 12:50:45 AM »
Here's a summary:

Hey if a shooter took shots at these particular times from these particular positions and ejected the shells then they might have bounced off these boxes and ended up in sort of similar locations as the shells in these photos that may or may not have been taken before Fritz picked the shells up and threw them back down.


if a shooter took shots at these particular times from these particular positions and ejected the shells then they might have bounced off these boxes and ended up in sort of similar locations as the shells in these photos

Anybody who believes this....Knows nothing about the ejection pattern of a Carcano being rapidly fired.....


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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #167 on: July 04, 2019, 12:50:45 AM »