CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?

[Martin Weidmann]

Did Norman say he 'thought' he heard shots from above him? I think not.
Pretty sure he said he heard boom, click-click, and pings 3 times in close sequence.
To have heard the bolt action, and spent shells dropping, from anywhere else would be quite a stretch.

Where did Norman say he 'thought' he heard shots from above him?

Besides, Euins and Brennan saw the shooter in that window.
They were, in effect, Norman's eyewitnesses.

Mr. NORMAN. I don't remember making a statement that I knew the shots came from directly above us. I didn't make that statement. And I don't remember saying I heard several seconds later. I merely told him that I heard three shots because I didn't have any idea what time it was.

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Mr. BALL. Did anybody say anything as to where they thought the shots came from?
Mr. NORMAN. Well, I don't recall of either one of them saying they thought where it came from.
Mr. BALL. But You did?
Mr. NORMAN. Yes.
Mr. BALL. And you said you thought it came from where?
Mr. NORMAN. Above where we were, above us.

[John Iacoletti]

What I've experienced is common sense: Norman heard what was going on above him; ergo anyone with hearing ability the equal of Norman's would hear the booms/clicks/'pings'.

I guess Jarman and Williams just didn't have "hearing ability the equal of Norman's".

[John Iacoletti]

2. Dan says there were 11 who participated, he describes 3 of the results. So a sample of 11 and Dan gives a sub-sample. I wonder how many samples he went through before he found one guy who had a time of 5.22 seconds in a controlled environment. That time is twice as long but then again on Nov 22 1963, there was more than one shooter. Maybe Dan meant to combine the times of the 3 participants he showed.

He also didn't mention that in 17 of the 37 attempts, the shooters were unable to get off three shots because of difficulty operating the bolt.

Also, did he say they were given time to practice at a nearby rifle range first?

[John Iacoletti]

Besides, Euins and Brennan saw the shooter in that window.
They were, in effect, Norman's eyewitnesses.

Brennan didn't say he saw anybody shoot anything.

Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle explode? Did you see the flash of what was either the second or the third shot?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.
Mr. McCLOY. Could you see that he had discharged the rifle?
Mr. BRENNAN. No. For some reason I did not get an echo at any time. The first shot was positive and clear and the last shot was positive and dear, with no echo on my part.
Mr. McCLOY. Yes. But you saw him aim?
Mr. BRENNAN. Yes.
Mr. McCLOY. Did you see the rifle discharge, did you see the recoil or the flash?
Mr. BRENNAN. No.

[John Mytton]

I guess Jarman and Williams just didn't have "hearing ability the equal of Norman's".

If they were all an equal distance away then you may have had a valid point.



JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

If they were all an equal distance away then you may have had a valid point.

If Williams hadn't been standing right next to Norman, then you may have had a valid point.

[Gary Craig]

Craig Roberts alleges Hathcock said this. There's absolutely no proof he actually did so. Craig Roberts was (surprise surprise) touting his conspiracy book 'Kill Zone' at the time.
Were these guys better shots than Hathcock...I seriously doubt it. 

--------------------   A CBS INVESTIGATION  --------------------------

-snip-

To recap all this, the CBS marksmen had:
1) a rifle with a quicker action
2) a better sighted scope
3) a target traveling in a straight line
4) practice firing with the weapon
5) a target on a steady speed
6) a somewhat larger target due to the slower speed of the target
7) no half window to fire out of like on the sixth floor
no thick window sill to lean out over to fire
9) most importantly, time to sight in on the first short before taking it.
CBS also gave their marksmen more time, as we shall see in their Test
#3.
CBS then reported: "Altogether the 11 volunteer marksmen made 37
attempts to fire 3 shots at a moving target.  Seventeen of those attempts
had to be called 'no time', because of trouble with the rifle."  (No time
meant that the target went outside the shooting area before all the shots
were fired.)  These 17 'no time' shots were not figured into their average
time for 3 shots.  CBS never even said where the shots that hit the target
were placed on this target.  But, they went on to claim 3 shots in 5.6
seconds could be achieved with a moving target.
The best of their marksmen was Howard Donahue.  He got off 3 hits
within 4.8 seconds on his third try.  He alone got three hits in one shooting
from the tower.  When he achieved this time, he had 2.5 seconds between
the second and third shots.  Several other of the CBS marksmen got 3
shots within 5.6 seconds, but none with the 2.5 seconds between shots 2
and 3.  Furthermore, none of the other marksmen that got the 3 shots in at
5.6 seconds did so on their first attempt.  But, they claimed LHO did just
that.

[John Mytton]

If Williams hadn't been standing right next to Norman, then you may have had a valid point.

Sorry, Norman who was directly underneath was still closer, try again.



Btw they weren't standing.



JohnM