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Offline John Mytton

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #336 on: July 18, 2019, 08:13:51 PM »
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a) how would you know who was closer to to the actual source of the shots?
b) how much closer than the guy kneeling (happy?) right next to him?

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a) how would you know who was closer to to the actual source of the shots?

Seriously? Above Norman there is one open window, do the math.



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b) how much closer than the guy kneeling (happy?) right next to him?

I didn't say "equal", you did.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #336 on: July 18, 2019, 08:13:51 PM »


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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #337 on: July 18, 2019, 08:16:21 PM »
Seriously? Above Norman there is one open window, do the math.

So?

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I didn't say "equal", you did.

No, you said "equal" and I didn't.  Oops!

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #338 on: July 18, 2019, 08:20:33 PM »
No, you said "equal" and I didn't.  Oops!

Oops, indeed! LOL!

I guess Jarman and Williams just didn't have "hearing ability the equal of Norman's".

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #339 on: July 18, 2019, 08:30:17 PM »
As discussed many times before, by the form of mislogic the brothers contrarian apply to this case, no one saw Booth shoot Lincoln.  They merely heard a loud sound that they "thought" might be a gun shot, and looked in that direction to see Booth pointing a gun at Lincoln.  They then "assumed" he had shot him when Lincoln slumped to the ground with a bullet in his head.  For all we know Booth merely picked the gun up off the ground after Lincoln committed suicide.  He worked there after all!  Just bad luck for him. It is complete nonsense.  No one has to see a murderer pull the trigger to know that he did so.  Many murders are, for understandable reasons from the perspective of the murderer, not committed in the presence of witnesses.  And yet they are solved.  To suggest that because no one saw Oswald pull the trigger that there is somehow doubt that he did so or that shots were fired from that window when a variety of witnesses place a shooter there and the physical evidence discovered on that floor verifies it is outlandish kookery.  Even the most desperate defense attorney who knows he has a stone cold guilty client would blush at that bogus defense.  And, of course, there is no attempt to explain the noises above Norman's head if he didn't hear shots.  The best we are left to ponder by implication is that for some inexplicable reason some unknown person stuck a "pipe" like object out the window at the moment of the assassination and presumably beat a base drum before escaping unnoticed.  And a variety of other unknown persons pulled off the assassination and planted all the evidence to frame Oswald.  It is truly wacky, tin foil hat nonsense. 

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #340 on: July 18, 2019, 08:30:17 PM »
Laughable.  If it was "normal" for employee prints to be on the SN boxes, then where are the prints of other employees?

Seriously, "Richard"?  Not only was one of the prints unidentified, but Truly refused to allow all the employees to be fingerprinted.

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  So unlucky for Oswald to be implicated over and over again by bad luck!

Implicated in what?  Touching boxes?

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   You also forgot a couple of things Hamburglar.  Oswald's prints are on the long bag as well.

You mean that bag that both Frazier and Randle said was not the bag they saw?  You mean that bag that showed no evidence of a rifle ever being in it?  That bag that doesn't show up in any crime scene photos?  That bag that the first 6 law enforcement officers in the "sniper's nest" didn't see?  That bag that the police couldn't even agree on where it was located and how it was folded?

That bag?

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  And his rifle is found on that floor.

"his rifle".  LOL.

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And Oswald fled the scene

LOL

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not even bothering to ask what was going on after a cop pulled a gun on him.

Is that supposed to be evidence of something?

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  And he got his pistol and shot a police officer.

LOL

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  Lied about owning a rifle and carrying any bag along the one described by Frazier.  And on and on.  It's a slam dunk.

Too bad your conclusions aren't actually supported by the evidence.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #340 on: July 18, 2019, 08:30:17 PM »


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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #341 on: July 18, 2019, 08:33:20 PM »
Oops, indeed! LOL!

Do you need a lesson in what quotation marks mean?

P.S.  Oops again!

If they were all an equal distance away then you may have had a valid point.

I didn't say "equal", you did.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #342 on: July 18, 2019, 08:39:29 PM »
As discussed many times before, by the form of mislogic the brothers contrarian apply to this case, no one saw Booth shoot Lincoln.

Uh, no one did see Booth shoot Lincoln, "Richard".  What's your point?

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No one has to see a murderer pull the trigger to know that he did so.  Many murders are, for understandable reasons from the perspective of the murderer, not committed in the presence of witnesses.  And yet they are solved.

What do you think it means to know something?  Something can be "solved" (whatever that means) and still not be true.

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  To suggest that because no one saw Oswald pull the trigger that there is somehow doubt that he did so or that shots were fired from that window when a variety of witnesses place a shooter there

And by "variety" you mean Euins.  Maybe.

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and the physical evidence discovered on that floor verifies it is outlandish kookery.

What physical evidence discovered on that floor do you claim "verifies" that shots were fired from that window?  Do tell.

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  Even the most desperate defense attorney who knows he has a stone cold guilty client would blush at that bogus defense.  And, of course, there is no attempt to explain the noises above Norman's head if he didn't hear shots.  The best we are left to ponder by implication is that for some inexplicable reason some unknown person stuck a "pipe" like object out the window at the moment of the assassination and presumably beat a base drum before escaping unnoticed.  And a variety of other unknown persons pulled off the assassination and planted all the evidence to frame Oswald.  It is truly wacky, tin foil hat nonsense.

Most of your strawman arguments (ie "implications") are indeed wacky, tin foil hat nonsense.  And yet you persist.
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Offline John Mytton

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #343 on: July 18, 2019, 09:03:21 PM »
Do you need a lesson in what quotation marks mean?

P.S.  Oops again!

As usual you're not making any sense, they're my quotation marks because I was quoting you.

I guess Jarman and Williams just didn't have "hearing ability the equal of Norman's".
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #343 on: July 18, 2019, 09:03:21 PM »