CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?

[John Mytton]

And I was quoting Chapman.  So who's not making sense?

No, Chapman said anyone of equal hearing in precisely the same place would hear the same sounds and you dishonestly tried to use Chapmans words and apply them to Williams and Jarman.

JohnM

[John Iacoletti]

The rifle can be broken down and can be reassembled.

But how do you know it was?

The prints that were recovered from the bag were from Oswald.

Of course they were.

I didn't say they captured a photo of the bag in the sniper's nest, I said that a bag was found in the Depository and that bag was long enough and wide enough for C2766 and this bag had Oswald's prints.

...and your point is ?

[John Iacoletti]

No, Chapman said anyone of equal hearing in precisely the same place would hear the same sounds and you dishonestly tried to use Chapmans words and apply them to Williams and Jarman.

Brilliant.  Except Chapman never said "in precisely the same place".  So who's the one being dishonest?

[John Mytton]

But how do you know it was?

Of course they were.

...and your point is ?

But how do you know it was?

The rifle can be broken down and the broken down rifle fits the bag with Oswald's prints.

Of course they were.

Don't tell me there's forged evidence and liars, do you have any proof?

...and your point is ?

It's just more evidence, we have an unexplained, broken down rifle sized bag with Oswald's prints in the Depository.

JohnM

[John Mytton]

Brilliant.  Except Chapman never said "in precisely the same place".  So who's the one being dishonest?

You've totally misunderstood Chapman's post, If someone of "equal" hearing isn't in precisely the same place as Norman then what the point of the experiment?

JohnM

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

Williams vacated the SN a few minutes before the shooting. He was photographed on the 5th floor in reaction to the shots by Dillard. Edwards and Fisher both saw a white man in the SN just before the motorcade arrived. With window open a significant way according to them. Did the assassin lower it just as the motorcade turned onto Houston? Analysis of the Hughes and Branson films might indicate a change in position consistent with Fisher and Edwards recollection.

Unfortunately, Fisher and Edwards should have been drug tested.

FISHER'S STATEMENT

Today, November 22nd, 1963, I was with Robert E. (Bob) Edwards, we were standing on the corner of Elm and Houston, on the southwest corner; about thirty seconds before the motorcade came by, Bob turned to me and said that there was a man on the fifth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building, at the window there, and I looked up and saw the man. I looked up at the window and I noticed that he seemed to be laying down there or in a funny position anyway, because all I could see was his head. I noticed that he was light-headed and that he had on an open-neck shirt, and that was before the motorcade rounded the corner. I noticed his complexion seemed to be clear, and that he was in this twenty's [sic], appeared to be in his twenty's [sic].

I turned away and by that time the motorcade rounded the corner. And then I heard what I thought was [sic] three shots, and the motorcade was about where that Stemmons Freeway sign is there.

I do remember one peculair [sic] thing happened just at the time I saw the man up there. There was a girl walked in the Texas School Book Depository Building, a rather tall girl, and she looked to me like she might be an employee in that building. She was walking in while everyone else had been coming out.

EDWARD'S STATEMENT

Today, November 22nd, 1963, I was with Ronald Fischer, and we were on the corner at Elm and Houston, and I happened to look up there at the building, the Texas School Book Depository Building, and I saw a man at the window on the fifth floor, the window was wide open all the way; there was a stack of boxes around him, I could see. Bob remarked that he must be hiding from somebody. I noticed that he had on a sport shirt, it was light colored, it was yellow or white, something to that effect, and his hair was rather short; I thought he might be something around twenty-six, as near as I could tell.

The motorcade rounded the corner about this time, and then I thought I heard four shots, but it never occurred to us what it was. The shots seemed to come from that building there.





The problem with these guys is Fisher says Edwards suggested to look at 5th story window. Fisher then does and describes "I looked up at the window and I noticed that he seemed to be laying down there or in a funny position anyway, because all I could see was his head. I noticed that he was light-headed"

Only for Edward's to describe something completely different " I saw a man at the window on the fifth floor, the window was wide open all the way; there was a stack of boxes around him, I could see. Bob remarked that he must be hiding from somebody."

Fisher thinks the man is laying down

Edwards thinks the man is trying to hide behind boxes

What is there to make of those two descriptions???

[Bill Chapman]

I guess Jarman and Williams just didn't have "hearing ability the equal of Norman's".

Only the window* above Norman was open
And I'm talking about Norman's position, not that of Jarman or BRW

[Colin Crow]

Unfortunately, Fisher and Edwards should have been drug tested.

FISHER'S STATEMENT

Today, November 22nd, 1963, I was with Robert E. (Bob) Edwards, we were standing on the corner of Elm and Houston, on the southwest corner; about thirty seconds before the motorcade came by, Bob turned to me and said that there was a man on the fifth floor of the Texas School Book Depository Building, at the window there, and I looked up and saw the man. I looked up at the window and I noticed that he seemed to be laying down there or in a funny position anyway, because all I could see was his head. I noticed that he was light-headed and that he had on an open-neck shirt, and that was before the motorcade rounded the corner. I noticed his complexion seemed to be clear, and that he was in this twenty's [sic], appeared to be in his twenty's [sic].

I turned away and by that time the motorcade rounded the corner. And then I heard what I thought was [sic] three shots, and the motorcade was about where that Stemmons Freeway sign is there.

I do remember one peculair [sic] thing happened just at the time I saw the man up there. There was a girl walked in the Texas School Book Depository Building, a rather tall girl, and she looked to me like she might be an employee in that building. She was walking in while everyone else had been coming out.

EDWARD'S STATEMENT

Today, November 22nd, 1963, I was with Ronald Fischer, and we were on the corner at Elm and Houston, and I happened to look up there at the building, the Texas School Book Depository Building, and I saw a man at the window on the fifth floor, the window was wide open all the way; there was a stack of boxes around him, I could see. Bob remarked that he must be hiding from somebody. I noticed that he had on a sport shirt, it was light colored, it was yellow or white, something to that effect, and his hair was rather short; I thought he might be something around twenty-six, as near as I could tell.

The motorcade rounded the corner about this time, and then I thought I heard four shots, but it never occurred to us what it was. The shots seemed to come from that building there.





The problem with these guys is Fisher says Edwards suggested to look at 5th story window. Fisher then does and describes "I looked up at the window and I noticed that he seemed to be laying down there or in a funny position anyway, because all I could see was his head. I noticed that he was light-headed"

Only for Edward's to describe something completely different " I saw a man at the window on the fifth floor, the window was wide open all the way; there was a stack of boxes around him, I could see. Bob remarked that he must be hiding from somebody."

Fisher thinks the man is laying down

Edwards thinks the man is trying to hide behind boxes

What is there to make of those two descriptions???

These guys provide some interesting information. The first day statements were taken in haste. Read their WC testimony.

An interesting interview here with Fisher......starts @42.40