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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #416 on: August 07, 2019, 06:46:27 PM »
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Interesting indeed.  What kind of investigator gets angry when he doesn't get the answers he wants?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #417 on: August 07, 2019, 06:51:29 PM »
"Frazier said to Tom Meros"  LOL

"I saw him go in the back door at the Loading Dock of the building that we work in, and he still had the package under his arm." -- Buell Wesley Frazier (affidavit, 11/22/63)

Frazier said to Mary Rattan LOL.

But note that he didn't say he saw the package under Oswald's arm at that time.  He merely assumed it, because it was under Oswald's arm when he walked away from the car.  Of course, none of this has anything to do with Oswald entering the TSBD building itself.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #418 on: August 07, 2019, 06:52:47 PM »
No.

Every employee who had cause to handle the boxes found in the sniper's nest was indeed fingerprinted.

Awesome.  What make you think the murderer had to be someone "who had cause to handle the boxes"?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #419 on: August 08, 2019, 04:26:38 PM »
Frazier said to Mary Rattan LOL.

But note that he didn't say he saw the package under Oswald's arm at that time.  He merely assumed it, because it was under Oswald's arm when he walked away from the car.  Of course, none of this has anything to do with Oswald entering the TSBD building itself.

Iacoletti,

Do you think it's reasonable to demand that Frazier, in order to be credible regarding his witnessing Oswald's carrying the package into the TSBD, state, "... and I could see with my very own 20/20 eyeballs that Oswald had NOT jettisoned or hidden the package of curtain rods somewhere in front of me in the parking lot, but was STILL carrying it when he entered the TSBD"?

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PS  Not unlike your implicit demand that Jacob, Holt and Simmons state unequivocally that they had walked to and watched the motorcade "shoulder-to-shoulder," i.e., that while they were walking there, their respective shoulders were, on average, two feet from each other's right or left shoulder, and while they were standing and watching the motorcade "on (the north side of) Elm Street about half-way between Houston Street and the Triple Underpass," their shoulders were, ON AVERAGE, only 1.5 feet apart.

The same regarding Calvary, Hicks, Reed, and Westbrook, yes?

Otherwise, it's reasonable to assume that they weren't physically close enough to each other during the motorcade, and that would "explain" why they weren't photographically captured "all together" in any of the photos and films, right?

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #420 on: August 08, 2019, 04:38:18 PM »
Do you think it's reasonable to demand that Frazier, in order to be credible regarding his witnessing Oswald's carrying the package into the TSBD, state, "... and I could see with my very own 20/20 eyeballs that Oswald hadn't jettisoned or hidden the package of curtain rods somewhere in front of me in the parking lot, but was STILL carrying that package of curtain rods when he entered the TSBD"?

No need.  Frazier was quite clear when he spoke to Tom Meros.

Tom Meros: And when he walked on ahead of you could you even see the package?
Buell Frazier:  No
Tom Meros: Unless you knew it was there, you wouldn't know what to look for.  You wouldn't even know that he had a package in his hand.
Buell Frazier: That is correct.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #421 on: August 08, 2019, 04:45:33 PM »
No need.  Frazier was quite clear when he spoke to Tom Meros.

Tom Meros: And when he walked on ahead of you could you even see the package?
Buell Frazier:  No
Tom Meros: Unless you knew it was there, you wouldn't know what to look for.  You wouldn't even know that he had a package in his hand.
Buell Frazier: That is correct.


Iacoletti,

To your knowledge, was a package containing either curtain rods or a broken-down rifle found in Frazier's car or "hidden" somewhere between where he'd parked his car that morning and the rear entrance to the TSBD?

If Oswald had jettisoned or hid his package while walking through that part of the parking lot, don't you think Frazier would have noticed his doing so?

If Frazier was telling the truth about seeing Oswald's package in his car, what, given the above, are we to assume happened to that package?

Do you think Frazier was "seeing blobs" that morning, or that he had ... gasp ... "made it all up"?


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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #422 on: August 08, 2019, 05:13:32 PM »
If Oswald had jettisoned or hid his package while walking through that part of the parking lot, don't you think Frazier would have noticed his doing so?

No, he was watching them switch the train cars.

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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #423 on: August 08, 2019, 05:32:29 PM »
No, he was watching them switch the train cars.

Iacoletti,

So, are you saying that Oswald did jettison or hide his curtain rods (or broken-down rifle) in the part of the parking lot he and Frazier walked through?

If so, why would Oswald do that?

Or rephrased, why do you think the evil, evil, evil CIA would have Oswald do that, or ... gasp ... have Frazier "make the whole thing up"?

ARE you saying that Frazier "made it all up" regarding the package in his car, etc, and, for some strange reason, wasn't willing to say he'd seen, with his very own 20/20 eyeballs, Oswald carry that "blob-like fantasy" into the TSBD?

Yes, I realize you're saying, "There's no evidence that Oswald carried that package into the building! The Warren Commission made it all up!"

But ... what are you really saying, Iacoletti?  That Frazier was a teller of untruths? 

If so, can you prove that with evidence?

-- MWT  ;)
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Re: CT's, in court how would you defend Oswald?
« Reply #423 on: August 08, 2019, 05:32:29 PM »