Could there have been a necessary and legitimate CIA/FBI cover up?

[Jorn Frending]

The Katzenbach Memo on Monday morning after the assassination made sure that Oswald was regarded as a lone nut and the only suspect.

Thus, any more investigation was unnecessary and cut by the roots.

Life in Irving before the assassination:

Before the assassination Oswald would be an ex marine, former member of the civil air patrol, and befriended with the rightwing De Mohrenschildt, a Dallas Petroleum Club member.

However, at the same time he would be a Fair Play for Cuba activist associating with Pro Castro Cubans and publicly advocate for a "Hands of Cuba policy".

Ruth Paine apparently had monitored help organisations in Nicaragua helping the Sandinistas who in 1961 formed the FLNS in their fight against dictatorship.

Michael Paine had a file cabinet with information about Pro Castro Cubans ...

(Wait a minute, could Oswald be furnishing Michael Paine with such information?)

Oswald, being a nobody, would get huge media attention for handing out only a few leaflets. Heavy TV cameras would show him handing out those leaflets and interview him later in the studios where he eloquently would answer questions about international politics.

(Now would you consider the following to be a matter of coincidence?)

Hoover made a memo about Oswald's name being used in intelligence operations while Oswald was still in Japan. The CIA had a 201 file on him.

The Sandinistas claimed to be Marxist Leninist and were supported by the USSR. Nicaragua was subject to counter espionage from both the US and the USSR.

Castro claimed to be a Marxist Leninist. And guess what, Oswald claimed to be a Marxist Leninist.(to get more credibility as a "Pro Cuban"?)

(Rather than being a coincidence you may wonder if Oswald formed part of a small scale counter intelligence operation, a kind of a 9 to 5 spy job)

If so, it could certainly be necessary to cover this up. Imagine that Oswald had become a triple agent for the USSR/Cuba. A WWIII could wait around the corner.

(Disclaimer: Citing from memory only, elaborating on a working theory)

[Tom Scully]

Removing your Sandinista (sourced from Carol Hewett as retold by DiEugenio or perhaps Bill Kelly?  ) suspicions,
This is what remains. (quoted below):

(IOW, don't try to be this guy.:

'A Constant Game of Musical Chairs' Amid Another Homeland Security ...
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/25/us/politics/mark-morgan-ice-cbp.html
4 hours ago - In one appearance on Fox News, Mr. Morgan said that when he looked into the eyes of detained migrant children, he saw a “soon-to-be MS-13 ...
Trump's ICE pick said he could predict future MS-13 gang members ...
https://www.businessinsider.com/mark-morgan-ice-nominee-ms-13-migrant-children-...

May 17, 2019 - Mark Morgan, President Donald Trump's pick to lead Immigration and ... migrant children will join the gang MS-13 by looking into their eyes.
Trump's ICE Nominee Thinks He Has a Sixth Sense for Future MS-13 ...
https://www.vanityfair.com/.../trumps-ice-nominee-mark-morgan-thinks-he-has-sixth-...

May 17, 2019 - “I’ve looked at them and I’ve said, ‘That is a soon-to-be MS-13 gang member,’” Mark Morgan told Fox’s Tucker Carlson. Donald Trump has never bothered to distinguish between migrant children and their parents when it comes to his anti-immigrant fear-mongering.

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The Katzenbach Memo on Monday morning after the assassination made sure that Oswald was regarded as a lone nut and the only suspect.

Thus, any more investigation was unnecessary and cut by the roots.

Life in Irving before the assassination:

Before the assassination Oswald would be an ex marine, former member of the civil air patrol, and befriended with the rightwing De Mohrenschildt, a Dallas Petroleum Club member.

However, at the same time he would be a Fair Play for Cuba activist associating with Pro Castro Cubans and publicly advocate for a "Hands of Cuba policy".

………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………...

Michael Paine had a file cabinet with information about Pro Castro Cubans ...

(Wait a minute, could Oswald be furnishing Michael Paine with such information?)

Oswald, being a nobody, would get huge media attention for handing out only a few leaflets. Heavy TV cameras would show him handing out those leaflets and interview him later in the studios where he eloquently would answer questions about international politics.

(Now would you consider the following to be a matter of coincidence?)

Hoover made a memo about Oswald's name being used in intelligence operations while Oswald was still in Japan. The CIA had a 201 file on him.

…………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..

Castro claimed to be a Marxist Leninist. And guess what, Oswald claimed to be a Marxist Leninist.(to get more credibility as a "Pro Cuban"?)

(Rather than being a coincidence you may wonder if Oswald formed part of a small scale counter intelligence operation, a kind of a 9 to 5 spy job)

If so, it could certainly be necessary to cover this up. Imagine that Oswald had become a triple agent for the USSR/Cuba. A WWIII could wait around the corner.

(Disclaimer: Citing from memory only, elaborating on a working theory)

Iacoletti is not the only, looking for the truth, let the chips fall where they may, poster on this forum. Some of us do not accept the CT info stream
at face value, anymore than we would a book authored by Posner.

I shared the following details with Jim DiEugenio on November 15, 2015. It appears since then DiEugenio preferred to keep you from awareness of these facts.
Could it be because these facts are less prejudicial to Ruth Paine's rep?

http://www.jfkpage.com/Paine/Occurrence_in_Nicaragua.pdf
Occurrence in Nicaragua - February/March 1991
The purpose of this paper is to document events which occurred in Managua, Nicaragua during February and March of 1991 involving Ruth Paine, U.S. coordinator of Pro-Nica, a project of the Southeastern Yearly Meeting of Friends (SEYM) based in St. Petersburg, Florida.
…...
During the next two or three weeks, Ruth, Jon and another person were at most gatherings of the U.S. solidarity community including regular meetings at the Benjamin Linder House, evening worship sessions held at the Moravian Church around the fast on the Iraq War, and a meeting of U.S. health workers held at the Linder House. 

(Link to Jon's obit: https://www.stanforddaily.com/2012/10/25/jonathan-roise-former-editor-in-chief-passes-away-at-67/
….
In 1990, Roise moved to Managua, the capital of Nicaragua, to work as the director of the Quaker Center. He co-founded Sí a la Vida, an organization that aimed to provide street children with mentorship and structured lifestyles to transition them to autonomous adulthood. The organization went on to open two centers in Nicaragua...)

The third person, a young red headed man named Sean Miller, took many pictures, using a special lens, and taped presentations, including one by Benjamin Linders’ parents who visited the Casa during this period.  Ruth said Sean was a student at Antioch College (located in Ohio) who was staying at El Centro de los Amigos and taking pictures for the Nicaragua Network.  Sean told some people he lived in Washington, D.C.

Ruth Paine was later found in Nicaragua helping the CIA's ... www.jfkpage.com/Paine/Occurrence_in_Nicaragua.pdf of his head, and the other struck him in the back, exited through his throat and .... The third person, a young red headed man named. Sean Miller, took many pictures, using a special lens, and taped presentations ... student at Antioch College (located in Ohio) who was staying at. El Centro de .... through for us.” Sue Wheaton.

Shawn Miller https://www.linkedin.com/pub/shawn-miller/9/9b/56b Instructional Systems Designer/ Courseware Lead/ Program Manager at Defense Acquisition University Washington D.C. Metro Area  ............ Antioch College B.A., Communications and International Studies 1988 – 1993 Activities and Societies: Graduated with distinction and Commencement Speaker for graduation class Antioch Record (Official College Newspaper) Editor-in-Chief Served as Assistant Community Manager Community Darkroom Manager Freelance photographer for Associated Press

https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawn-miller-56b09b9
Shawn Miller
Program Manager of Development & Production For e-Learning, Mobile & Simulations at Defense Acquisition University
Fort Belvoir, Virginia....

[John Iacoletti]

Careful, Jorn.  You're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist!

[Jorn Frending]

Careful, Jorn.  You're starting to sound like a conspiracy theorist!

You are correct 

This is "no man's land" ...

It does not comply with the LN lone nut highschool drop out point of view ...

Nor does it comply with the CT oblivious innocent Oswald point of view ...

However, it explains Oswald on one side being an order filler and on the other side being an eloquent knowledgeable speaker on public television.

It explains Michael Paine possessing a filecabinet with intelligence contents.

It explains intelligence monitoring on Oswald.

It  explains why the "one member Oswald  committee" of Fair Play for Cuba could get heavy television cameras on the street and Oswald interviewed on television.

[Denis Pointing]

You are correct 

This is "no man's land" ...

It does not comply with the LN lone nut highschool drop out point of view ...

Nor does it comply with the CT oblivious innocent Oswald point of view ...

However, it explains Oswald on one side being an order filler and on the other side being an eloquent knowledgeable speaker on public television.

It explains Michael Paine possessing a filecabinet with intelligence contents.

It explains intelligence monitoring on Oswald.

It  explains why the "one member Oswald  committee" of Fair Play for Cuba could get heavy television cameras on the street and Oswald interviewed on television.

Hi Jorn, I believe it's been accepted by most for years that Oswald tipped off the news guys in advance, they didn't just appear by accident..in that sense, the 'incident' was indeed a set up but a set up by Oswald. As for the filing cabinets, IIRC, the list of pro-Castro Cubans was shown to have belonged to Oswald.

PS I didn't remember correctly, after double checking it seems the list of Cuban names was just a myth. The contents of those cabinets have in fact never been revealed.

Mr. LIEBELER. What was in these file cabinets?

Mr. WALTHERS. We didn't go through them at the scene. I do remember a letterhead--I can't describe it--I know we opened one of them and we seen what it was, that it was a lot of personal letters and stuff and a letterhead that this Paine fellow had told us about, and he said, "That's from the people he writes to in Russia"; he was talking about this letterhead we had pulled out and so I just pushed it all back down and shut it and took the whole works.

Mr. LIEBELER. I have been advised that some story has developed that at some point that when you went out there you found seven file cabinets full of cards that had the names on them of pro-Castro sympathizers or something of that kind, but you don't remember seeing any of them?

Mr. WALTHERS. Well, that could have been one, but I didn't see it.

Mr. LIEBELER. There certainly weren't any seven file cabinets with the stuff you got out there or anything like that?

Mr. WALTHERS. I picked up all of these file cabinets and what all of them contained, I don't know myself to this day.

Mr. LIEBELER. As I was sitting here listening to your story, I could see where that story might have come from--you mentioned the "Fair Play for Cuba" leaflets that were in a barrel.

Mr. WALTHERS. That's right--we got a stack of them out of that barrel, but things get all twisted around.

[Tom Scully]

Hi Jorn, ......
..... As for the filing cabinets, IIRC, the list of pro-Castro Cubans was shown to have belonged to Oswald.

Custer: The Legend of the Martyred Hero

[Jack Nessan]

Custer: The Legend of the Martyred Hero

Actually they did not achieve anything. Gen Custer was basically a clown and led his men to needless death. The whole battle never lasted 20 minutes, and a lot of the men were killed running in small groups.

[Bill Chapman]

You are correct 

This is "no man's land" ...

It does not comply with the LN lone nut highschool drop out point of view ...

Nor does it comply with the CT oblivious innocent Oswald point of view ...

However, it explains Oswald on one side being an order filler and on the other side being an eloquent knowledgeable speaker on public television.

It explains Michael Paine possessing a filecabinet with intelligence contents.

It explains intelligence monitoring on Oswald.

It  explains why the "one member Oswald  committee" of Fair Play for Cuba could get heavy television cameras on the street and Oswald interviewed on television.

CT mancrush Lee Harvey Oswald was a committee of three, actually:
1) Alex/Alec/Alek Hidell (rhymes with Fidel) was in charge of armament procurement.
2) O.H. Lee was in charge of safe house procurement... and the butt-twister waltz.
3) Dirty Harvey was in charge of curtain-rod procurement... along with becoming a somebody.

Oswald's Marxist schtict was closer to Groucho than Karl by the way. IIRC, Michael Paine and/or George deM stated that Oswald was talking as if by rote, and would get angry and leave the room if challenged.

Swedish makes it sound even funnier:

CT mancrush Lee Harvey Oswald var en kommitté med tre, faktiskt:
1) Alex / Alec / Alek Hidell (rimmar med Fidel) var ansvarig för bevarandeupphandling.
2) O.H. Lee var ansvarig för säkra husupphandlingar ... och butt-twister waltz.
3) Dirty Harvey var ansvarig för gardinstångsupphandling ... tillsammans med att bli någon.

Oswalds marxistiska schtikt var närmare Groucho än Karl förresten. IIRC, Michael Paine och / eller George deM uppgav att Oswald pratade som om han var rote och skulle bli arg och lämna rummet om han utmanades.