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Online Tom Mahon

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #208 on: January 22, 2025, 11:03:22 PM »
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Why didn't he take the 1st shot when the limo turned on Elm when JFK was a mere 60 ft in front of him?

Why would he leave the scope on the rifle when he disassembled it before smuggling it into the TSBD? Less rifle to smuggle in.

Why would he leave the scope on the rifle if he didn't intend to use it? It would only have gotten in the way if he intended to use the iron sights.

Why would he not have sighted in the scope and practiced with it? Any sharpshooter would have, especially for such an important mission.

Why don't you just answer my question?

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #208 on: January 22, 2025, 11:03:22 PM »


Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #209 on: January 22, 2025, 11:32:50 PM »
Why don't you just answer my question?

I thought it was rhetorical. Otherwise, how would I know what was going through Oswald's head? He wasn't even 1 of the shooters. Now answer any of mine, if you dare.

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #210 on: January 22, 2025, 11:49:47 PM »
How would I know what was going through Oswald's head?

Exactly.

But you do realize, don't you, that Oswald's using his scope for such a close-up, fast-moving target at "Z-124" would be counterproductive, and if he did try that stunt (using the scope for his first, missing-everything shot), it would probably explain why he missed everything with it.

Either that, or, as Charles Collins hypothesizes, the barrel of his short-rifle bumped the box on the windowsill and caused him it to prematurely "go off."

D'oh.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 12:08:46 AM by Tom Mahon »

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Re: Why the first shot missed
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Offline Jack Trojan

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #211 on: January 23, 2025, 12:09:25 AM »
Exactly.

Are you trying to make a point? Because it's moot if Oswald never took a shot. He was in the lunch room having a Coke at the time. The Carcano was already ditched and Oswald was waiting for further instructions because he was just the patsy, whether he knew it or not.

If you would like me to speculate, then why would any shooter not use the scope from that distance? Wouldn't you? Sharpshooter Oswald must have used the wonky scope if he missed from that distance, which checkmates your point, no? Do you ever intend to answer any of my questions, or can't you handle the implications?
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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #212 on: January 23, 2025, 12:20:26 AM »
[Oswald's using or not using the scope] is moot if he never took a shot. He was in the lunchroom having a Coke at the time. The Carcano was already ditched and Oswald was waiting for further instructions because he was just the patsy, whether he knew it or not.

See, that's where 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation and "active measures" ops have really xxxxxx you, and millions of other Americans, up.

Poor widdle self-described Marxist Oswald didn't even own the Carcano, right?

LOL!

*Today's SVR and FSB

Rhymes with mucked.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 12:25:00 AM by Tom Mahon »

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Re: Why the first shot missed
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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #213 on: January 23, 2025, 12:48:59 AM »
See, that's where 60-plus years of KGB* disinformation and "active measures" ops have really xxxxxx you, and millions of other Americans, up.

Poor widdle self-described Marxist Oswald didn't even own the Carcano, right?

LOL!

*Today's SVR and FSB

Rhymes with mucked.

How old are you? You LNer trolls are the reason I don't bother with this site any more. You have no critical thinking skills and you wouldn't know a fallacy if it bucked (ryhmes with f*cked) you in your arse. The irony is that the Lone Nut Conspiracy Theory has a hold of you Neo.

I have no intention of engaging with you tin foil hat LNers at least until you grow up and learn how to use logic to make an argument. Maybe then you can debate like an adult. Until then, later dude.

 

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #214 on: January 23, 2025, 12:55:00 AM »
How old are you? You LNer trolls are the reason I don't bother with this site any more. You have no critical thinking skills and you wouldn't know a fallacy if it bucked (ryhmes with f*cked) you in your arse. The irony is that the Lone Nut Conspiracy Theory has a hold of you Neo. I have no intention of engaging with you tin foil hat LNers at least until you grow up and learn how to use logic to make an argument. Maybe then you can debate like an adult. Until then, later dude.

How old am I? Suffice it to say I've been studying the JFKA for 40-plus years and I used to be a tinfoil-hat conspiracy theorist like you.

Speaking of logical fallacies, how many bad guys do you figure were involved in the planning, the "patsy-ing," the shooting, and the all-important COVER UP?

Coupla hundred?

Thousands?

"Arse"?

What's that in American English?
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 01:01:06 AM by Tom Mahon »

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #215 on: January 23, 2025, 01:37:08 AM »
Exactly.

But you do realize, don't you, that Oswald's using his scope for such a close-up, fast-moving target at "Z-124" would be counterproductive, and if he did try that stunt (using the scope for his first, missing-everything shot), it would probably explain why he missed everything with it.

Either that, or, as Charles Collins hypothesizes, the barrel of his short-rifle bumped the box on the windowsill and caused him it to prematurely "go off."

D'oh.

   You LN's buying into Holland's early/missed shot is perfect. CT's can also claim that missed shot came from a 2nd shooter. You're shooting yourself in the foot with that early missed shot. Thanks
« Last Edit: January 23, 2025, 01:37:43 AM by Royell Storing »

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #215 on: January 23, 2025, 01:37:08 AM »