Why the first shot missed

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Not only that, but KGB true defector Pyotr Deriabin (1954) wrote a couple of days after the assassination that (former KGB "swallow") Marina had to be at least a low-level KGB informant to be permitted to marry Oswald and leave the USSR with him, and, according to Richard Russell in his book, "The Man Who Knew Too Much," CIA counterintelligence analyst Clare Edward Petty read some WW II VENONA decrypts in the early 1970s which convinced him that GdM was very probably a long-term KGB "illegal."

I mean, I mean, I mean . . . how equivocal do you want me to be? (LOL)

The truly important thing, however, is that whether or not the KGB (or the DGI) killed JFK, the former has been "making hay" out of the anomaly-replete assassination since virtually Day One, and the tinfoil-hat conspiracy theories is has promulgated and encouraged over the past sixty years have helped to make cynical, paranoiac and apathetic our body politic to such an extent that "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin was able to install The Traitorous Orange Dude as our "president" in 2017 and 2024.

IMHO, Russia won The Cold War on 5 November 2024.

So I didn't misread you. You *do* believe there was a Soviet role in Oswald's act. That is, a conspiracy.

As to the Venona intercepts: the names in those messages have been identified (largely by the historians Haynes and Klehr). DeMohrenschildt isn't among them. Although the identification is still a work in progress.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Americans_in_the_Venona_papers

[Tom Graves]

So, I didn't misread you. You *do* believe there was a Soviet role in Oswald's act.

Correction: I *do* believe that there *may* have been a Soviet role in Oswald's act.

For all of the reasons I mentioned, above.

As to the Venona intercepts: the names in those messages have been identified (largely by the historian Haynes and Klehr). DeMohrenschild isn't among them.

I don't have access to the VENONA decrypts Russell was referring to.

All I know is that he said that in Petty's opinion, GdM matched the description of an NKVD "illegal" who:

1) Was from "Poland," or some-such country.

2) Was in the U.S. before WW II.

3) Had lived in Mexico during WW II.

4) Was a real "wheeler-dealer."


Factoids:

George "von" Mohrenschildt was born in Mazyr, Belarus, about 300 miles east of the Polish border.

He immigrated to the U.S. in May 1938.

He and his girlfriend, Lilia Larin, lived in Mexico for several months in 1942.

He was an insurance salesman.

He marketed his own artwork.

He was a sugar speculator.

He was an oil speculator.

He was a film producer.

And . . . gasp . . . he married at least one woman for her substantial moo-la (sp?),

 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

Correction: I *do* believe that there *may* have been a Soviet role in Oswald's act.

For all of the reasons I mentioned, above.

I don't have access to the VENONA decrypts Russell was referring to.

All I know is that he said that in Petty's opinion, GdM matched the description of an NKVD "illegal" who:

1) Was from "Poland," or some-such country.

2) Was in the U.S. before WW II.

3) Had lived in Mexico during WW II.

4) Was a real "wheeler-dealer."


Factoids:

George "von" Mohrenschildt was born in Mazyr, Belarus, about 300 miles east of the Polish border.

He immigrated to the U.S. in May 1938.

He and his girlfriend, Lilia Larin, lived in Mexico for several months in 1942.

He was an insurance salesman.

He marketed his own artwork.

He was a sugar speculator.

He was an oil speculator.

He was a film producer.

And . . . gasp . . . he married at least one woman for her substantial moo-la (sp?),

All of the intercepts/decrypts have been released. You can read them here: https://www.nsa.gov/Helpful-Links/NSA-FOIA/Declassification-Transparency-Initiatives/Historical-Releases/Venona/

The problem is identifying the code names. Almost all of that, as I understand it, has been done by historians, chiefly by John Haynes and Harvey Klehr. They have a list of over 300 names in their book. Not all were agents. For example, FDR's code name was identified (capitan). I would think if DeMorenschildt's name was hinted at they would have found it.

You're relying too much on conspiracy authors who simply, for me, have a rather, let's say, shaky grasp of things. People like Russell and Simpich et al. They can see a CIA conspiracy in a bowl of corn flakes. For most of us, it's just breakfast.

[Tom Graves]

You're relying too much on conspiracy authors who simply, for me, have a rather, let's say, shaky grasp of things. People like Russell and Simpich et al. They can see a CIA conspiracy in a bowl of corn flakes. For most of us, it's just breakfast.

You've got to learn how to separate the kernels from the slop, Steven.

Even full-on Pinko and Fascist CT "researchers" sometimes slip up and share with you something that fits in with your own personal theory.

Mine?

That the world-class humanitarian organization formerly known as the KGB* made hay from the anomaly-replete JFKA, and by doing so and concomitantly promulgating other body politic-rending CTs, eventually enabled "former" KGB officer (you knew that, right?) Vladimir Putin to install The Traitorous Orange Dude as our "president" in 2017 and 2025.

Do you like what he's done so far?

What it boils down to, Steven, is that Russia won The Cold War on 5 November 2024.

-- Tom

PS Ask yourself "Why would left-leaning Dick Russell write in his JFKA CT book that a CIA Counterintelligence analyst had determined in the early 1970s that GdM was very probably a long-term KGB 'illegal''?

Seems kinda counter-productive to me.

You?

*Today's SVR and FSB