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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #24 on: July 04, 2019, 07:43:19 PM »
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I think it's hilarious but tragic that people are still trying to "shoehorn" LHO into that window with malicious intent. There are a lot of potential assassins I'd be concerned about, but "Lee Hardly" is not one of them, especially with his unimpressive shooting record and that embarrassing rifle. Virtually every bit of evidence in this case has been tampered with or has a dubious chain of possession. Autopsy witnesses reported bullets and fragments recovered that were never introduced as evidence.

If there was a lone assassin, everything would line up perfectly and there would be no controversy. What we find is quite the opposite, with corrupt officials at the highest levels of our government covering up the truth from the outset.

You nutters are aware that Max Holland is a paid shill of the CIA, right? The guy is so oily, he makes me ill. He has concocted some of the most idiotic assassination scenarios I've ever heard and you people quote this genius? Again, it's embarrassing. Holland and Posner should start a detective agency together...

Again, I have to beg all of you: DON'T EAT THE CHEESE! IT'S A TRAP AND YOU ARE DECEIVING HISTORY! It is painfully obvious LHO was the patsy he claimed to be and it is an atrocity that you duped nutters continue to perpetuate the impossible notion of a lone assassin. The cockamamie story concocted by Specter needs to be filed in the only appropriate place for such malodorous waste: the toilet at the National Archives...

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Can't wait for your press conference...
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Re: Why the first shot missed
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Offline Chris Davidson

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #25 on: July 04, 2019, 07:54:29 PM »
When you roll a car down a street with a 3.13° slope and re-measure the "mark", the relationship for vertical to horizontal is 1ft/18.3ft.
A 10" change should have resulted in the "mark" moving 10/12 = .833... x 18.3 = 15.25ft farther down Elm St.
The entries for CE884 z161-166 make it quite obvious that a ballistic, as well as speed adjustment was being made for syncing.
The distance from the limo front to JFK within the limo is 15.11ft
The distance between first shot determination(FBI/SS) at Station#3+81.3 and CE884 extant z235(Station#396.8) = 15.5 ft = the same distance between StationC - 234.5 (where the measurements started) and directly below the snipers window at Station# 250.0
The "mark" is and always was JFK's physical location within the limo.
Follow the bouncing ball.



Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #26 on: July 04, 2019, 08:11:17 PM »
I have plenty of posts loaded with evidence, but I notice your total silence when I make irrefutable points. But the same is true of all the "nutters."

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Offline Jim Brunsman

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #27 on: July 04, 2019, 08:12:52 PM »
Once again, just nonsensical cheap shots. I would gladly debate anyone in any venue on these issues...

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #28 on: July 04, 2019, 08:14:45 PM »
No clue why you would make a "JFK" reference complete with photo since it is totally unrelated to what I wrote...

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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #29 on: July 04, 2019, 08:50:25 PM »
Once again, just nonsensical cheap shots. I would gladly debate anyone in any venue on these issues...

Feel free to name your shooter, and anyone other than the shooter who knew an attempt was going to be made on Kennedy that day.
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Offline Jack Nessan

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #30 on: July 04, 2019, 09:43:45 PM »
Interesting but the problem is this shot never happened. Not one eyewitness in Dealey Plaza ever heard this shot. Nobody at all. Especially not the men below the SN window.

BR WILLIAMS 11/22, Sheriffs Affidavit : "I heard 2 shots. It sounded like they came from just above us. We ran to the West side of the building. We didn't see anybody. "

James Jarman:

He said that he heard a shot and then saw President KENNEDY
move his right hand up to his head
. After an elapse of three
or four seconds, he heard a second shot and then the vehicle
bearing President KENNEDY speeded up and he was unable to
observe any more about the presidential vehicle. He said a
third shot was heard- by-him closely following the second shot
possibly within/second or two afterward. He said these shots
sounded to him to be too loud to have been anywhere outside the
TSBD building.

Offline Ray Mitcham

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Re: Why the first shot missed
« Reply #31 on: July 05, 2019, 12:26:17 AM »
Interesting but the problem is this shot never happened. Not one eyewitness in Dealey Plaza ever heard this shot. Nobody at all. Especially not the men below the SN window.

BR WILLIAMS 11/22, Sheriffs Affidavit : "I heard 2 shots. It sounded like they came from just above us. We ran to the West side of the building. We didn't see anybody. "

James Jarman:

He said that he heard a shot and then saw President KENNEDY
move his right hand up to his head
. After an elapse of three
or four seconds, he heard a second shot and then the vehicle
bearing President KENNEDY speeded up and he was unable to
observe any more about the presidential vehicle. He said a
third shot was heard- by-him closely following the second shot
possibly within/second or two afterward. He said these shots
sounded to him to be too loud to have been anywhere outside the
TSBD building.

James Jarman to the W.C.

"Mr. JARMAN - After the motorcade turned, going west on Elm, then there was a loud shot, (one)or backfire, as I thought it was then--I thought it was a backfire.
Mr. BALL - You thought it was what?
Mr. JARMAN - A backfire or an officer giving a salute to the President. And then at that time I didn't, you know, think too much about it. And then the second shot (two)was fired, and that is when the people started falling on the ground and the motorcade car jumped forward, and then the third shot (three)was fired right behind the second one.
Mr. BALL - Were you still on your knees looking up?
Mr. JARMAN - Well, after the third shot was fired, I think I got up and I run over to Harold Norman and Bonnie Ray Williams, and told them, I said, I told them that it wasn't a backfire or anything, that somebody was shooting at the President.

Seems Jarman thought he heard three shots.

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Re: Why the first shot missed
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