This is not an argument for guilt or innocence, just an observation.
I’ve always been interested in how many coincidences are involved in this case. Maybe what seems strange to me is just par for the course.
.....
What inspired you to start a new thread on the topic of coincidences? Anyway, I planned to post the following research results on the EXISTING thread on the topic of coincidences, so now I will probably post these details to both coincidence threads....
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1330.0.htmlCan the divide / debate amount to each side elevating favorite coincidences?In a recent thread on the topic of how a defense of Oswald could be presented in a criminal trial if the DPD had protected his life to afford him the opportunity,
I pointed out that consecutive Navy secretaries, Connally in 1959 and Korth in 1969, reportedly lost recently married daughters to self inflicted 20 gauge shotgun wounds, as did reportedly DeMohrenschildt die of self induced 20 gaugeITIS in 1977. It gets much wierder...
........
Connally's successor as Navy Secretary is afforded a wider wikipedia "leash" but not when the subject is the matter of Korth's daughter
going out the same way as Kathleen Connally Hale (and George DeM, too!).... self inflicted 20 gauge! (See 1969 article image @ bottom of post) Verita Korth death certificate indicates no autopsy was performed and time of coroner inquest is 2-1/2 hours after time of death!
So much for any thorough investigation!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYBY-7RW?i=258&cc=1983324.....
We know what happened to Bobby Hale, Connally's widowed by 20 gauge shotgun, son-in-law. He ended up in a prison in Alaska, dying behind bars of a terminal illness.
But what was the fate of Korth son-in-law, Alexander Sheshunoff?
https://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/28/nyregion/francis-h-cabot-86-extraordinary-gardener-dies.html
Francis H. Cabot, 86, Dies; Created Notable Gardens
November 27, 2011
...Mr. Cabot, who retired from Train, Cabot in 1976, was chairman of the New York Botanical Garden from 1973 to 1976. His other horticultural posts include distinguished adviserships to the Brooklyn Botanic Garden and the Royal Botanical Gardens in Burlington, Ontario.
Besides his son, Mr. Cabot is survived by his wife, Anne Perkins Cabot,(granddaughter of George Merck and of JP Morgan partner George W Perkins) whom he married in 1949; ...
June, 1959, George O'Neill, son-in-law of David Milton and his Rockefeller wife, is named as a director at Bell Helicopter in the same announcement as the promotion of Walter Dornberger to Bell V.P.
April, 1960, Equity Corp. sells its controlling interest in Bell to Textron
June, 1960, Fred Korth appointed as a Bell director.
In 1963, O'Neill joined Train, Cabot.: (linked to cached version, click on Background)
George D. O'Neill: Executive Profile & Biography - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/profile/person/18861489?cic_redirect=2
...Mr. George D. O'Neill is the Founder of Meriwether Capital, L.L.C. He has been active in the firm since its inception in 1976. Prior to this, Mr. O'Neill held various positions with several financial institutions including Train, Cabot & Associates, Equity Corporation, and Chase Manhattan Bank. He has served as a Director of many companies including Rockefeller Group, Inc., Bell Aircraft, and Wheelabrator. Mr. O'Neill was also the Chairman at BPU Reynolds, Inc. He was ......
Alexander Austin Sheshunoff v. Gabrielle Martha Sheshunoff ...
https://www.courtlistener.com/opinion/2869655/alexander-austin-sheshunoff-v-gabrielle-martha-she/
Jul 29, 2005 - Gabrielle Martha Sheshunoff — Brought to you by Free Law Project, ... to execute the Agreement solely for estate and tax-planning purposes ...
https://washdiplomat.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9124:dutch-envoys-texas-bride-is-all-business-bliss-and-charm&catid=1502:may-2013&Itemid=526
Dutch Envoy's Texas Bride Is All Business, Bliss and Charm
https://washdiplomat.com/index.php?option=com_content...id...
Apr 29, 2013 - Dutch Ambassador Rudolf Bekink and Gabrielle de Kuyper ... to U.S. states such as Texas, where Gabrielle was a longtime resident of Austin.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108116503/george-blake-cabot
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/108116506/quincy-de-cabot
George Blake Cabot 14 Nov 1939 – 12 Jan 1971
108116503
Quincy De Cabot unknown (1967) – 12 Jan 1971
Francis H Cabot's (see Nov., 2011 Cabot NYTimes obit, above) father, Francis H Cabot Jr of Virginia (1896 - 1956)
was the brother of George Bonner Cabot (died Salisbury, CT, 1977), the father of George Blake Cabot and father-in-law of Gabrielle de Kuyper Cabot, who married the widower of Verita Korth Cabot (shotgun suicide, May 1, 1969) in 1971.....
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/33778613/francis-higginson-cabot
Francis Higginson Cabot
BIRTH 13 Feb 1896
Staten Island, Richmond County (Staten Island), New York, USA
DEATH 4 Feb 1956 (aged 59).....
https://web.archive.org/web/20141008041825/http://academic.shu.edu:80/findingaids/mss0058.html
Biographical note
John P.C. Train was born 25 May 1928 in New York City to Arthur Train, a district attorney in New York City and author of the popular ?Ephraim Tutt? stories that appeared in the Saturday Evening Post in the 1930s and 1940s, and Helen Coster Gerard, daughter of JP Morgan partner Charles Henry Coster. He attended the Groton School, a college preparatory boarding school located in Groton, Massachusetts. He later attended Harvard University where he received his bachelor?s degree and master?s degree and was head of The Harvard Lampoon and the Signet Society.
In 1953, he co-founded and became the first managing editor of The Paris Review. He then set up a credit-rating agency in Greece, a consulting firm in Costa Rica, and a tire-retreading company in Guinea before serving in the Army Reserves as a Sergeant and first Lieutenant and then working in Wall Street. In 1958, he founded the New York investment firm Train, Cabot, and Associates, later Train, Smith Counsel, and currently Train, Babcock Advisors. During this period, he became principle owner of Chateau Malescasse, a Cru Bourgeois wine producer. He is also chairman of the Montrose Group, investment advisors and tax accountants, and is a director of a emerging markets mutual fund.
......
John Train is the Tom Devine associate at 375 Park Ave., two weeks after Oswald allegedly attempted to assassinate Gen. Edwin Walker.
https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=64083&relPageId=2Tom Devine entered M.I.T. in 1944, residing in the Sigma Chi house with 16 fraternity brothers including Priscilla Johnson CIA overseer in 1963,
Garry Coit.
Recently I presented a link clearly supporting that Cogswell was close to Richard Ober from childhoods in Scarsdale.
It was Cogswell who alerted HSCA to his friend Joseph Dryer's firsthand knowledge of George DeM....
General Discussion & Debate / Re: That "whole Bay of Pigs thing"
« by Tom Scully on June 30, 2019, 06:23:25 PM »
...... from F Scott Fitzgerald's literary agent, Harold Ober. Cogswell attended Phillips Exeter at the same ............ as Ober's son, Richard, the future CIA agent close to ............ parents in the form of Fitzgerald's agent, Harold Ober, and his wife, Anne. She attended Vassar, wrote ............ confirmation the Cogswells were familiar with the Obers for 5+ years. Earlier today, Eureka! James (Jack ............ Jake) K Cogswell III, Richard Ober, and Nick Katzenbach all simultaneously attended ............ Greece. Patsy Southgate, maid of owner in Nathan Ober wedding in image below, married Guinzberg Yale ............ CIA) wedding, as was the sister-in-law of Richard Ober of CIA. Usher Thomas Guinzburg would later hire ......
Fred Korth was forced to resign in fall 1963 as Navy secretary, due in no small part to Gilpatric's questionable dealings with General Dynamics
and Bell.
GILPATRIC'S ROLE ON PLANE SCORED; Senators Question ...
https://www.nytimes.com/1964/02/07/archives/gilpatrics-role-on-plane-scored-senators-question-decision-on.html
February 7, 1964
Sen subcom scores ex-Sec Gilpatric award of X-22 Vertical/Short takeoff and Landing ... GILPATRIC'S ROLE ON PLANE SCORED; Senators Question Decision on ...
Gilpatric, his brother, and John McCloy summered on Mt Desert Island, ME with the Rockefeller children....
Chadbourne Gilpatric, Foundation Aide, 74 - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/1989/02/03/obituaries/chadbourne-gilpatric-foundation-aide-74.html
Feb 3, 1989 - Chadbourne Gilpatric, a retired official of the Rockefeller Foundation, died Wednesday after undergoing surgery at the Eastern Maine Medical ...
Tom Devine's maternal grandmother (Louise Wolcott Hooker Dodge) was a first cousin of Elon Hooker, maternal grandfather of former US Senator John D Rockefeller IV.:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/102334174/louise-wolcott-dodgehttps://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126976919/blanchette-ferry-rockefeller
Blanchette Ferry Hooker was born in Manhattan, New York on October 2, 1909. She was the daughter of Elon Huntington Hooker, founder of Hooker Electrochemical Company, and his wife, Blanche Ferry of Detroit, whose family owned the F M Ferry Seed Company....Mother of Senator John D Rockefeller 4.
She died in New York City of pneumonia, a complication of Alzheimer's Disease, on November 29, 1992, at the age of 83.
Fred Korth married Beto's maternal grandma in 1980. Beto knew Korth!
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/15052865/frederick-herman-korth
Frederick Herman “Fred” Korth
BIRTH 9 Sep 1909
Yorktown, DeWitt County, Texas, USA
DEATH 14 Sep 1998 (aged 89)
El Paso, El Paso County, Texas, USA....
Ted Cruze campaign oppo research did not go very deep, but it does make the point that the daughter of the woman Fred Korth married in
1980 was likely involved in money laundering and that she is the mother of Beto ORourke.:
https://www.chron.com/news/politics/texas/article/Ted-Cruz-uses-Beto-O-Rourke-s-mother-s-tax-12972476.php
Ted Cruz uses Beto O’Rourke’s mother’s tax fraud case to attack tax policy
By Alejandra Matos Updated 5:33 pm CDT, Wednesday, June 6, 2018
.....
Cruz alleges that O’Rourke was financially connected “to this criminal activity” because O’Rourke and his mother co-owned the shopping center where the store was located in west El Paso.
O’Rourke’s campaign declined to comment, referring instead to statements O’Rourke made to the El Paso Times Wednesday. He said the case has long been resolved, and that he has not concealed anything related to the case.......
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/99645862/charlotte-marguerite-korth
KORTH. Charlotte Williams Korth, 82, (7 January, 2003) passed away Tuesday morning at her home. Charlotte Brooks was born and raised in Racine, Wisconsin and later moved to Albuquerque, New Mexico, where she met her first husband Robert L. Williams. She and Robert moved to El Paso where they raised three children and started the furniture store that bears her name. She was known nationally as a leading interior designer and Charlotte's Furniture Store is still regarded as one of the premier furniture stores in the Southwest. In 1980 she married Fred Korth, former Secretary of the U.S. Navy. She was preceded in death by her first husband, Robert L. Williams and her second husband, Fred Korth; her sister Betty Miller, her brothers, Lewis, Edward and Robert Brooks and her son- in-law Pat F O'Rourke....