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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: About coincidences
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2019, 05:10:14 AM »
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Something 'substantive' about a shooter aiming elsewhere needs to accompany such a ridiculous suggestion.

Your mindreading skills never fail to impress.

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Re: About coincidences
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Offline Jerry Freeman

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2019, 08:00:03 PM »
Oswald goes to a foreign embassy in Mexico City.  The CIA photographs a man it claims is LHO.  It is not LHO and 55 years later they still cannot produce a photo of LHO in Mexico City.
While [coincidentally] on  the very same day, visited the home of Silvia Odio in Dallas with two anti-Castro Cubans.
But then I just hate to muddle up the thread with cold hard facts.
 

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Re: About coincidences
« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 09:41:58 PM »
That is a lie. 
  Sez U. Harshly put there--Have I ever dissed you?
 
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The photo taken in front of the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City was on October 1.
...But then, the 'photo' of who was taken on Oct 1? Lee Harvey Oswald?
 

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: About coincidences
« Reply #11 on: July 16, 2019, 01:26:28 AM »
While [OSWALD coincidentally] during the very same time period, visited the home of Silvia Odio in Dallas with two anti-Castro Cubans.
But then I just hate to muddle up the thread with cold hard facts.
There...I fixed it.
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: July 16, 2019, 01:43:11 AM »
The Odio visit was Sept. 26 or 27, 1963. The photo taken in front of the Soviet Embassy in Mexico City was on October 1.
Interesting that [according to the official story] the timing of the Odio visit is taken as a gospel fact but that regarding the actual participants of the visit ...well, she was in error about that >:(
 

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Offline Tom Scully

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Re: About coincidences
« Reply #13 on: July 16, 2019, 12:18:57 PM »
In support of the details in several posts on the first page of this thread.:

Peter Janney has not shown the slightest interest in commenting or writing about his uncle Frank Pace's transfer of control of General Dynamics, when Pace was Chairman of Gen. Dyn., to the control of Henry Crown. Crown promptly hired the close friend of Sidney Korshak and errand boy for Gus Alex to assist him in managing his new financial empire.:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Albert_E._Jenner_Jr.&oldid=743261060#Controversy
THE ORDEAL OF LESTER CROWN - The New York Times
New York Times - Dec 7, 1986 "Meanwhile, seven officers and employees of Material Service were padding their expense accounts -at the direction of Crown, according to the Government report - and reimbursing their boss. The project was cut short when Material Service was subpoenaed by a Federal grand jury investigating corruption in the industry. The family turned to Albert E. Jenner Jr., a lawyer and longtime friend who is on the board of General Dynamics. Whenever the kids got into trouble, Jenner says, they never bothered the old man. They talked to me, and I got them out of trouble. In return for his cooperation with the grand jury, Lester Crown was granted immunity from prosecution."[3]

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https://www.deseretnews.com/article/765693381/Billionaire-philanthropist-David-Rockefeller-dies-at-age-101.html


FILE - In this Nov. 28, 1967, file photo, the five Rockefeller Brothers pose for photos in New York as they gather to receive gold medals from the National Institute of social sciences. From left are: David Rockefeller, President of the Chase Manhattan Bank; Winthrop Rockefeller, Governor of Arkansas; Frank Pace, President of the NISS; John D. Rockefeller 3rd, Chairman of the Rockefeller Foundation; Nelson Rockefeller, Governor of New York; and Laurence Rockefeller, a conservation adviser to President Johnson. ....

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_Wistar_Morris_Janney

Frederick Wistar Morris Janney (March 15, 1919 – January 18, 1979) was a career Central Intelligence Agency officer who was recruited by Allen Dulles in 1949. He held a number of positions during his thirty-year career and was awarded the Agency's highest honor, the Distinguished Intelligence Medal four days after his death.[1]....
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https://www.nytimes.com/1940/11/23/archives/margaret-m-janney-wed-bryn-mawr-girl-becomes-bride-of-frank-pace-jr.html
November 23, 1940
MARGARET M. JANNEY WED; Bryn Mawr Girl Becomes Bride of Frank Pace Jr. of ...

Frank Pace Jr., Former Secretary Of the Army and Executive, Dies ...
https://www.nytimes.com/1988/01/10/obituaries/frank-pace-jr-former-secretary-of-the-army-and-executive-dies.html
Jan 10, 1988 - January 10, 1988, Page 001030Buy Reprints The New York Times Archives. Frank Pace Jr., a former Secretary of the Army and the first chairman of the ... He is survived by his wife, the former Margaret Morris Janney of ...

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A Good Life - Page 130
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Ben Bradlee - 2011 - Preview - More editions
Ben Bradlee.
...The offer came from Frank Pace, then Secretary of the Army, former Budget Bureau Director, and later the young president of General Dynamics. He had never heard of me, but he was married to Wistar Janney's sister, and one night at the Janneys' he mentioned he was
 
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Frank Pace Jr. Joins Time Inc. Directors
‎Hartford Courant - Apr 25, 1960
Frank Pace Jr., chairman ot the board and chief executive officer ot General Dynamics ... A joint announcement from Time Inc. Editor-in-Chief Henry R. Luce and. ......

 
Evidence Implies Order Expected by Dynamics
‎Hartford Courant - Nov 21, 1963
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Senate probers produced evidence Wednesday that a top executive of the General Dynamics Corp., claimed "reasonably strong indications" far in advance that the firm would win the huge, disputed TFX warplane... tract. Frank Pace, who has since resigned, was named as the . Deputy Secretary of Defense Roswell L. Gilpatric, testifying before the Senate Investigations subcommittee, swor he had no idea where Pace could have received such information.
Former Legal Adviser
Gilpatric is a former legal adviser to General Dynamics whose role in the TFX contract negotiations is under senatorial fire. He described Pacej as his close friend. Earlier in the day. Chairman John L. McClellan. D-Ark., told Gilpatric that he should have disqualified himself from having anything to do with the contract award, to avoid any possible allegations of conflict of in-i terest. I The subcommittee is investi-. gation whether favoritism' steered the contract to General Dynamics last December. Gilpatric and others in the Defense Department's civilian command overruled military I evaluations that a rival design and bid by the Boeing Co. of Seattle promised a better, cheaper version. Costly Project
The Pentagon estimates the TFX project will cost between $5 billion and $7.5 billion. This would make it the largest in Pentagon history .
I The subcommittee produced a! document dated "July 1961" in! which Pace, top official of Gen-; eral Dynamics' Fort Worth, \ Tex., division, told its top management: "There are reasonably strong indications that Fort Worth's proposed -: ration offers the only approach] that can satisfy both Air Force and Navy requirements" for (or the TFX. ! McClellan said this was "a, month and seven days" before the Pentagon had even complet-1 ed a statement of design re-! " Where," he demanded, "was the source of these reasonably strong indications?
 
New York Times - Nov 19, 1963
...The session brought out that ,Mr. Gilpatric was influential in j Continued on Page 17, Column 3 GILPATRIC S ROLE ON TFX QUERIED Continued From Page 1, Col. 2 bringing the General Dynamics account to his law firm, that Maurice Moore, senior partner of the firm, was named to the General Dynamics board of directors one month after the TFX contract was awarded to the company. -Gilpatric's former law firm was named counsel for General Dynamics at the same time. -Gilpatric acknowledged that he spent about onefourth of his time as a lawyer during 2i4 years in the late 1950's handling General Dynamics matters, and GD paid his firm $111000 in legal fees during this same period....."
 
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Luce Aides: 'No Drastic Changes'; 3 He Picked to Run Empire...
‎New York Times - Mar 6, 1967
Luce last Monday, the day before he died in Phoenix, Ariz. ... Paul G. Hoffman, Samuel Meek, Maurice T. Moore and Frank Pace Jr. ' Mr. Luce, who was also on ....


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Tom Scully Posted July 29, 2012
From a financial POV, and from the standpoint of enduring political influence, history has borne out this result.:

Obama tries to allay Jewish concerns - USATODAY.com

www.usatoday.com/news/politics/2008-03-14-51172334_x.htm

Mar 14, 2008 – And he said critics' e-mails never mention Lester Crown, a member of his national finance committee who is "considered about as hawkish and and tough when it comes to Israel as anybody in the country."


https://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/world/americas/11iht-11chicago.12772819.html
...Straddling Two Worlds

As Obama moved closer to running, he paid a visit to James Crown and his father, Lester, billionaire investors who presided over a sprawling Chicago business dynasty and prominent leaders in the Jewish community....

http://www.jpost.com/Magazine/Features/Article.aspx?id=118057

Mr. Obama's neighborhood

.... TO TRACE the story of Obama's Chicago Jewish political connections, one needs to start in Boston. The story, as long-time acquaintance and major Jewish philanthropist Lester Crown tells it, goes something like this....

...These kinds of introductions proved key for Obama's construction of a network which would eventually support his political aspirations. The Crown family, for instance, have been major financial backers, with Lester's son James serving as Obama's Illinois finance chairman....

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Re: About coincidences
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