On page 7 of this thread, Michael Clark posted a grossly over-enlarged (and unpaginated, of course) page from John L. Hart's virtually treasonous propaganda piece,
The Monster Plot Report.
That page (pg. 81) and the ones surrounding it in
The Monster Plot Report extol all of the wonderful help false-defector Yuri Nosenko gave the CIA and FBI, specifically all of the KGB and GRU agents he'd helped them to "uncover".
On page 8 of this thread, I posted a detailed rebuttal (see below) to those assertions, but Clark has made no effort to challenge said rebuttal in his own words, choosing instead to "appeal to authority" by continuing to post the same garbage from his favorite gullible (or worse) discredited* sources: Howard J. Osborn, Richards J. Heuer and, of course, the HSCA perjurer and author of
The Monster Plot Report, John L. Hart, himself.
In my humble opinion, it's
almost as though Clark is secretly working for KGB-boy Vladimir Putin in trying to convince gullible members and guests here (and at the so-called Education Forum) that Yuri Nosenko was a true defector (and Anatoliy Golitsyn a crazy or false one), despite the fact that world-class "The CIA Killed JFK" CTer and former Army Intelligence analyst
John Newman was so convinced by what Tennent H. Bagley wrote in his 2007
Spy Wars and his 2013
Spy Master that he now believes that Nosenko was a false defector (interestingly, Newman convinced none other than
Peter Dale Scott of same in March 2018), and that true-defector Golitsyn was a valuable source of information for CIA (and could have been for J. Edgar Hoover's FBI, which organization, having been so thoroughly hoodwinked by "Fedora" and others, wouldn't give Golitsyn "the time of day"). *read Bagley's 2007
Spy Wars, 2014
Ghosts of the Spy Wars, and 2013
Spymaster, and Mark Riebling's 1994
Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA.
Does Michael Clark realize how foolish (or worse) and troll-ish he looks here?
Here's a list from my page-7 reply summarizing the specific allegations Hart made in that (pg. 81) piece of garbage Michael had posted there a little earlier :
KGB Souces Yuri Nosenko Allegedly Uncovered For CIA and FBI:1) U.S. Army sergeant Robert L. Johnson
2) -- a buncha technical military stuff
3) U.S. Sergeant Dayle W. Smith
4) James A. Mintkenbaugh
5) Some microphones in the American Embassy in Moscow
6) William John Cristopher Vassall !
7) and ... gasp ... about 200
unnamed spies in
unnamed European countries, as attested to by three
unnamed CIA officers who had the wherewithal to know!
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Now for the really good stuff from my Reply #73 on: August 18, 2019, 06:29:31 AM on page 8 of this thread):Michael,
Well, not hearing from you as to whether or not that list of spies allegedly uncovered by Nosenko that I drew up is comprehensive, and seein' as how you replied to my post with some difficult-to-read stuff about two of my heroes (Anatoliy Golitsyn and Pyotr Popov) in a discolored and grossly over-enlarged page from Hart's "Monster Plot," instead, I guess I'll just go ahead and start with Number 1 on the list -- U.S. Army Sergeant Robert L. Johnson, okay?
Let's see what another of my heroes, Tennent H. Bagley, has to say about him, whaddaya say?
Robert L. Johnson
From page 179 of Bagley's 2007 book
Spy Wars:
The spy in the Orly (Paris airport) courier center, Sergeant Robert Lee Johnson, had been very important indeed -- when active. But by the time Nosenko told us about him, Johnson had lost his access to the courier center, and his mentally unhinged wife was broadcasting her knowledge that he was a Soviet spy. The case was stone-cold dead, and the KGB knew it before Nosenko handed it to us.
-- MWT
NEXT UP -- Sergeant Dayle W. Smith !
Dayle W. Smith
From Bagley's book
Spy Master (with-and-about former KGB General Sergei Kondrashev):
Sergeant Dayle W. Smith (KGB's "Andrey") confessed to having been recruited while in Moscow during 1953-1955. But the American authorities saw no reason to prosecute him because he had had no access to sensitive information and never passed any to the Soviets. For the KGB, he was a free “give-away.”
And this from page 179 of
Spy Wars:
The most important (according to Nosenko) suspect, (KGB's) "Andrey” the sergeant-mechanic of cipher machines, left service six months before Nosenko fingered him and had never had access to cipher secrets even while active.
-- MWT
NEXT UP: James A. Mintenbaugh ! (... Who??)
James A. Mintkenbaugh
From the Wikipedia article on Robert Lee Johnson (see above):
(Johnson) also recruited a former Army friend, James Mintkenbaugh. Johnson worked for the KGB between 1953 and 1964, and passed on information while stationed at various sites in Europe and the U.S. ... In 1964, Johnson was turned in by his wife and, like Mintkenbaugh, received a 25-year prison sentence in 1965.
Note: Bagley doesn't seem to talk about Mintkenbaugh in his books or in his PDF
Ghosts of the Spy Wars, but I think it's reasonable to assume that since Robert Lee Johnson was already "toast" when Nosenko "uncovered" him, that Mintkenbaugh was "throw away" material, as well.
-- MWT
NEXT UP: Some Microphones in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow!
Microphones in the U.S. Embassy in Moscow
From page 179 of Bagley's
Spy Wars:
Microphones in the American Embassy? Everyone from the ambassador to the janitor knew they existed -- as they do in every embassy the Politburo might be interested in. Golitsyn had confirmed that well-known fact.
Note: Bagley goes into this in some detail in his HSCA testimony. He starts talking about them at the bottom of this page:
https://history-matters.com/archive/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol12/html/HSCA_Vol12_0299b.htm-- MWT
NEXT UP: William John Cristopher Vassall !!!
William John Cristopher Vassall
For background on this dude, here's the Wikipedia article on him. I don't know how accurate the article is because I haven't read it yet. (I'll read it later today and let you know if there's anything egregiously wrong in it ...)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_VassallAnd here's something on him in Bagley's
Spy Wars, page 179:
By the time Nosenko walked into CIA in Geneva (in May 1962) and pinpointed the British naval source William Vassall, the KGB already knew Vassall to be compromised by Golitsyns defection (in December of 1961). They even played a game to build up Nosenko in Western eyes: after Golitsyn’s defection, against all logic, they restored their contact with Vassall, which they had suspended while the British investigated an Admiralty lead from an earlier source.(fn 1)
And this, also from
Spy Wars, page 260:
Nosenko’s defenders cite his uncovering of John Vassall, the British Admiralty employee, as a great contribution although they knew that Golitsyn had previously exposed Vassall. To explain that away, they went further in inventiveness: the British weren’t really on Vassall's track at all, they said. Had it not been for Nosenko’s information the British might have mistaken Golitsyn’s lead to Vassall for a totally different Admiralty source, the Houghton-Gee-Lonsdale network earlier un- covered by Goleniewski.(fn 18) In fact, no such confusion was even remotely possible.
(There's more, but it's getting late, even here in Paradise-on-Earth known as La Jolla, California ...)
-- MWT
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-- MWT