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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2019, 08:12:43 PM »
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The mob did not fire the fatal head shot. The mob did the assassination of JFK, planned, organized, executed, etc,  but they did not fire the fatal round.
In the excitement, Hickey accidently squeezed off a round. I have read that he was standing up on the rear seat which would create an unstable situation. Now imagine him with the AR15 in his hand, the car accelerates or decelerates and he loses his balance. In that situation anyone would try to grab onto something. He grabbed the pistol grip thus squeezing off the fatal round.

   If you look at images of the Queen Mary coming down Houston St and then Elm St, SA Hickey is seated Much Higher than everyone else inside that car. In fact, the level of his Head is Higher than the Top of the windshield. Nobody has ever explained Exactly why Hickey was seated at that highly elevated level.
   SA Hickey was usually one of the "Detail" Guys that washed, waxed, and generally cleaned up the Limos before and after they were used in official functions.  Hickey's SS field experience was more in line with Manny, Moe, & Jack vs an SS agent such as Clint Hill. Putting a "locked and loaded" AR-15 in the hands of an inexperienced individual such as Hickey amidst his being under fire = rolling the dice as to what you are going to get.

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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2019, 08:12:43 PM »


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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2019, 09:00:22 PM »
"Shooting holes in theory that a Secret Service agent killed President Kennedy"   

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/Shooting_holes_in_theory_that_a_Secret_Service_agent_killed_President_Kennedy.html

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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2019, 09:04:39 PM »
Hey Denis, Much of the information about that I am referring to comes from the video "JFK - The Smoking Gun" by Colin McLaren. It talks about Hickey, the people that saw him with a gun, and the people that smelled the gunpowder. It's about an hour and a half long and I think you can see it for $2-$3 on youtube, here's the trailer
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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2019, 09:04:59 PM »
"Shooting holes in theory that a Secret Service agent killed President Kennedy"   

https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/Shooting_holes_in_theory_that_a_Secret_Service_agent_killed_President_Kennedy.html

From the article:

"Add in disagreements about how much JFK's head was leaning forward or turned toward the left, as seen below in a frame from the Zapruder film, and the trajectory further resembles guesswork."

Aren't they all?

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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2019, 10:11:03 PM »
Responding to the article https://www.inquirer.com/philly/news/Shooting_holes_in_theory_that_a_Secret_Service_agent_killed_President_Kennedy.html
 Accidents don’t get any freakier – The bullet had to go somewhere, he wasn’t aiming, he just accidently squeezed off a round.
No solid witnesses - Howard Donohue went through the Warren Report and found eleven witnesses that put the AR15 in Agent Hickeys hand at the time of the third shot. Of the eleven witnesses, seven are Secret Service agents.
Smoking Gun discredits grassy knoll – Yes because of the physics of the fatal shot. It hit JFK in the back of the passed through his brain and then exploded blowing out the right side of his forehead.  In the Zapruder film it shows blood and brain matter being blasted out of his head. That was not an entry wound. An entry wound would be slightly larger that the bullet’s diameter.
No one was sure Hickey’s fired the gun – One SS Agent said he thought that Hickey fired the gun.
Lawsuit – yes there was a lawsuit but we don’t know the particulars about it. Menninger went to Hickey’s house to confront him and Hickey didn’t even deny it. I think he said nothing and slammed the door in Menninger’s face if I remember correctly. Kind of peculiar behavior for an innocent man.
It’s dubious using a gapping hole to calculate trajectory – I don’t know that’s it’s dubious but the exit hole would have been somewhere within the gapping hole. Personally I would have used the center of the gapping hole.
Did the bullet enter near the base or 4 inches higher – The illustration shows the bullet entering JFK’s head just right of center about 2/3’s of the way up that back of his head. He deliberately tries to confuse the issue.
The frame of JFK in the limo shows him clutching his neck meaning that was his reaction to the second shot from the TSBD, not the third and fatal shot.
Any bullet fired at a cantaloupe or a watermelon is going to leave a nice round entry hole because of the soft material and the exit wound might be small and round in the case of a jacketed bullet and explosive if it’s a frangible bullet.
The pictures of the carcano bullets look like copper jacketed bullets. I believe the bullet’s fired from the 6th floor of the TSBD were steel jacketed bullets. Copper is way softer than steel.
All the points that the author brings up appear to be twisted. There is another critic that brought up a lot of points also and neglects to mention that there were actual witnesses. I believe McLaren emailed him and gave him an earful.

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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2019, 12:53:15 AM »

    Let's Not Forget: (1) SA Hickey's seated position is Higher than the Top of the Queen Mary Windshield, and (2) The JFK Limo and the Queen Mary are Traveling/Facing DOWN HILL. SA Hickey did Not need to Stand Up in order for an alleged shot fired from the AR-15 to clear the top of the Queen Mary windshield and reach the JFK Limo.
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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2019, 02:36:55 AM »
 LOL! “In agent Hickey’s had at the time of the of the third shot.” Get real
Hey, I didn’t say it, the eleven witnesses did, were you there??
 
Perfectly appropriate for an innocent man to say, really??? How about asking what he is talking about??
Problem with melon tests………..
I am sorry but do disintegrate when they hit a melon, want to see pictures?


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Re: Did Hickey Fire the Fatal Shot - Originally Posted by Tom Dooley
« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2019, 09:16:40 AM »