JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter

[Martin Weidmann]

15 years later is a long time to mix up the sequence of events. That could happen to anyone. That is a more reasonable excuse than JFKs body was switched.

Actually, that would have to be the collective memory of a substantial number of people that need to be mixed up about the same sequence of events.

Reasonable of not, real life is often stranger than fiction. Just because you can't wrap your head around a particular scenario doesn't mean it couldn't have happened or didn't happen. 

You have to take what the individual witnesses have said at face value and then look at the overall picture. When you do, you will find that those witnesses support eachother to such an extend that it would be nearly impossible for the sequence of events being different.

[Mike Orr]

As per  You tube  ' Len Osanic and Doug Horne The Airforce One Audio Tapes ' !  From about 1:12:00 to as long as you want to listen . There are some new details that I thought to be very interesting and states firmly that JFK's body was moved from Andrews AFB by ' Helicopter ' to Bethesda !!!!!!!

[Gerry Down]

As per  You tube  ' Len Osanic and Doug Horne The Airforce One Audio Tapes ' !  From about 1:12:00 to as long as you want to listen . There are some new details that I thought to be very interesting and states firmly that JFK's body was moved from Andrews AFB by ' Helicopter ' to Bethesda !!!!!!!

It was taken by hearse.

[Martin Weidmann]

It was taken by hearse.

You are going to have to prove that....

[Gerry Down]

You are going to have to prove that....

Roy Kellerman was there:

At 2:47 p.m., USAF 26000 was airborne for Washington, D.C., arriving at Andrews Air Force Base at 5:58 p.m., est.

While airborne, arrangements were made for a Naval ambulance from the New Naval Medical Center at Bethesda to be available at the airport. Upon landing we removed the casket, placed it into the ambulance. At the airport, Chief Rowley advised me that two FBI agents, Francis O'Neill, Jr., and James Siebert, had been assigned to this case and to allow them into the morgue at the U.S. Naval Hospital. I told Chief Rowley the cars would arrive at Andrews at about 8 p.m., and suggested he assign field agents to them to completely go over them for any evidence that might be found.

Mrs. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and General McHugh sat in the rear of the ambulance- SAs Greer, Landis and myself with Dr. Burkley rode in the front to Bethesda, with a police escort. The body was immediately taken to the morgue and the family was assigned rooms in the Towers of the Center. Hill and Landis remained with Mrs. Kennedy in her quarters and William Greer and I remained in the morgue and viewed the autopsy examinations which were performed by Vice Admiral Gallway, Commanding Officer, NNMC, Chief Pathologist Cdr. James Humes, Lt. Col. Pierre A. Finck who is Chief, Military Environmental Pathology Division and Chief of Wound Ballistics, Pathology Branch, and J. Thornton Boswell, Cdr. Medical Corps, USN, together with the Naval Medical Staff. SA O'Leary was also in the morgue briefly. Agents O'Neill and Siebert were present.

LINK: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sa-kelle.htm

[Martin Weidmann]

Roy Kellerman was there:

At 2:47 p.m., USAF 26000 was airborne for Washington, D.C., arriving at Andrews Air Force Base at 5:58 p.m., est.

While airborne, arrangements were made for a Naval ambulance from the New Naval Medical Center at Bethesda to be available at the airport. Upon landing we removed the casket, placed it into the ambulance. At the airport, Chief Rowley advised me that two FBI agents, Francis O'Neill, Jr., and James Siebert, had been assigned to this case and to allow them into the morgue at the U.S. Naval Hospital. I told Chief Rowley the cars would arrive at Andrews at about 8 p.m., and suggested he assign field agents to them to completely go over them for any evidence that might be found.

Mrs. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy and General McHugh sat in the rear of the ambulance- SAs Greer, Landis and myself with Dr. Burkley rode in the front to Bethesda, with a police escort. The body was immediately taken to the morgue and the family was assigned rooms in the Towers of the Center. Hill and Landis remained with Mrs. Kennedy in her quarters and William Greer and I remained in the morgue and viewed the autopsy examinations which were performed by Vice Admiral Gallway, Commanding Officer, NNMC, Chief Pathologist Cdr. James Humes, Lt. Col. Pierre A. Finck who is Chief, Military Environmental Pathology Division and Chief of Wound Ballistics, Pathology Branch, and J. Thornton Boswell, Cdr. Medical Corps, USN, together with the Naval Medical Staff. SA O'Leary was also in the morgue briefly. Agents O'Neill and Siebert were present.

LINK: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sa-kelle.htm

At best, that only proves that the casket was transported by hearse to Bethesda. He assumed that the body was in it. Why would he think otherwise?

The problem is that Paul O'Connor and others are on record saying that they removed Kennedy's body in a body bag from a shipping casket.

[Gerry Down]

The problem is that Paul O'Connor and others are on record saying that they removed Kennedy's body in a body bag from a shipping casket.

The handles were broken off the casket. Maybe this is why there was confusion.

[Michael Walton]

Oh god, why do people keep thinking this and continue to talk about it? Why do plausibility and real-world events constantly get thrown out the window for some ridiculous fairy tale that Lifton cooked up and made a million bucks on?

How in the world would anyone know that early in the game what could possibly have happened in Dallas to start some stirring of stealing the body and performing all manner of body alterations? They had absolutely NO IDEA at that point what happened on Elm Street. None. So how in the world would they even know what to alter? And yet, to this day goofy people STILL believe goofy stories like the body being thrown down into the cargo hold and whisked away on a helicopter in full view of the widow, his brother and live TV cameras and TV lights. Whisked away so mad doctors with scalpels at the ready did "all manner" of body alterations.

Why? Why do people still believe this crap?