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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2020, 11:50:01 AM »
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When Jerrol Custer told the ARRB that he was taking X-rays of Kennedy's body to be developed when he saw Jacky and Robert Kennedy arrive, that needs to be explained rather than dismissed out of hand.

I think contradictions like this have simple explanations, but explanations which we might never know because we dont have all the facts. Jackie and Robert may have gone out to get a cup of coffee, come back in, and then Custer thought they were coming in for the first time.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2020, 11:50:01 AM »


Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2020, 12:46:28 PM »
I think contradictions like this have simple explanations, but explanations which we might never know because we dont have all the facts. Jackie and Robert may have gone out to get a cup of coffee, come back in, and then Custer thought they were coming in for the first time.

I think contradictions like this have simple explanations, but explanations which we might never know because we dont have all the facts.

And why is it that we don't have all the facts? Because the "investigation" was flawed!

Jackie and Robert may have gone out to get a cup of coffee, come back in, and then Custer thought they were coming in for the first time.

Nice bit of wishful thinking, but the record as it stands is that Jackie and Robert went straight up to a room in Bethesda's tower and never left it.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2020, 05:55:27 PM »
When Jerrol Custer told the ARRB that he was taking X-rays of Kennedy's body to be developed when he saw Jacky and Robert Kennedy arrive, that needs to be explained rather than dismissed out of hand.

If Lifton was right and there was a big operation to hide JFKs body, do you not think they'd have been a bit more careful than to have Custer taking xrays of the body when Jackie and Robert came in with another casket. I mean come on.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2020, 06:20:14 PM »
If Lifton was right and there was a big operation to hide JFKs body, do you not think they'd have been a bit more careful than to have Custer taking xrays of the body when Jackie and Robert came in with another casket. I mean come on.

Why? Bethesda was and is a naval facility. All staff were sworn to absolute secrecy on penalty of a court martial. None of the men, O'Connor and Custer included, said a word about anything that happened at Bethesda that day until they were released from their duty to remain silent when they were being interviewed by the HSCA, some 15 years later. Had that not happened, they probably would have taken the information to their grave.

And Custer never saw Jackie and Robert come in with another casket. They just walked through the main entrance after leaving the hearse. The casket was delivered to the back of Bethesda. Custer saw them in the hallway and had no reason to assume they had come with another casket.
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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2020, 01:42:02 AM »
And Custer never saw Jackie and Robert come in with another casket. They just walked through the main entrance after leaving the hearse. The casket was delivered to the back of Bethesda. Custer saw them in the hallway and had no reason to assume they had come with another casket.

Then there appears to be no contradiction at all. David Lifton and co reading way too much into things.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2020, 01:42:02 AM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2020, 01:46:37 AM »
If Lifton was right and there was a big operation to hide JFKs body, do you not think they'd have been a bit more careful than to have Custer taking xrays of the body when Jackie and Robert came in with another casket. I mean come on.

This sounds like another one of those "real conspirators never make mistakes" arguments.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #14 on: April 14, 2020, 01:58:49 AM »
Then there appears to be no contradiction at all. David Lifton and co reading way too much into things.

Of course there is a contradiction, but Custer couldn't have known that at the time. He was taking X-rays of JFK to be developed when he saw Jackie and Robert enter the hallway of the building. He did not know if they just arrived or if they had been there for a while, so he had no reason to question the fact the Kennedy's body was already in the morgue. He only found out about the contradiction after he was allowed to talk about the case, some 15 years later.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2020, 07:56:56 PM »
He only found out about the contradiction after he was allowed to talk about the case, some 15 years later.

15 years later is a long time to mix up the sequence of events. That could happen to anyone. That is a more reasonable excuse than JFKs body was switched.

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Re: JFK from Air Force 1 to Bethesda by helicopter
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2020, 07:56:56 PM »