The "Domino Room Alibi"

[Thomas Graves]

I believe Von P knows that Lee had a rock solid alibi....   ( The FACT that he was in the first floor, Domino Room. just a couple of minutes before the shooting. makes it  highly unlikely that he could have been behind the sixth floor window at 12:30 )   

But Von P is struggling with that fact....   I don't blame him.... Because that fact destroys his fairy tale world....

Walter,

I think we should declare Colin "The Winner," don't you?

--  MWT 

[Colin Crow]

Walter,

I think we should declare Colin "The Winner," don't you?

--  MWT 

Have I been patient enough Tommy? I would rather reality to be declared the winner. Perhaps then deal with all that follows from the acceptance of what the evidence tells us.

[Martin Weidmann]

Walter,

I think we should declare Colin "The Winner," don't you?

--  MWT 

Maybe we just should call you the loser.....

[Thomas Graves]

Maybe we just should call you the loser.....

How about "Underdog"?

And you?

You could be "Weasel"!

--  MWT   

[Colin Crow]

Now that we can agree the balance of evidence puts the arrival of Jarman and Norman on the 5th floor after Rowland's gunman sighting at 12.15pm let's explore an event that, in my view, never happened. Given's cigarette trip in which he claimed to have seen Oswald on the 6th floor after the "elevator race".

I would start with this.....as an entre....

Mr. BELIN. Did you wear a jacket to work that day?
Mr. GIVENS. I wore a raincoat, I believe. It was misting that morning.
Mr. BELIN. Did you hang up your coat in that room, too?
Mr. GIVENS. Yes, sir.

Mr. BELIN. When did you see Lee Harvey Oswald next?
Mr. GIVENS. Next?
Mr. BELIN. Yes.
Mr. GIVENS. Well, it was about a quarter till 12, we were on our way downstairs, and we passed him, and he was standing at the gate on the fifth floor.
I came downstairs, and I discovered I left my cigarettes in my jacket pocket upstairs, and I took the elevator back upstairs to get my jacket with my cigarettes in it. When I got back upstairs, he was on the sixth floor in that vicinity, coming from that way.

For the true believers to counter with "something".

[Colin Crow]

As I recall Sylvia Meagher had Givens covered decades ago but you may be headed somewhere else...

Hello Otto,
I think it's time that both sides accepted that "Given's story" should be rejected as a total fabrication. It should be removed from the sequence of events unless some supporting evidence can be produced.

[John Mytton]

As I recall Sylvia Meagher had Givens covered decades ago but you may be headed somewhere else...

Sylvia Meagher -- LOL

JohnM

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

When have you ever considered anything coming from the WC as being 'good enough'?

Back to, I know you are but what am I -type responses.
Less than creative, Bill.
You don't have much to offer.
In fact, you are the one supporting a claim.
It looks like you have no reason to be supporting the claim or at least you are reluctant to do so.
Why support what you can't seem to back up or is it all of sudden a secret?