Those Front Steps

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

It is quite remarkable that among the many Motorcade viewers, employed at the TSBD Bldg, that were on the Elm St Entrance Landing and/or the Stairs, as well as those in front of the Entrance Portal, not one testified that they saw LeeHarveyOswald on the Landing or Stairs as the Motorcade passed the Entrance and the shooting occurred. Evidently, he was not there.

Why, did one of them say they saw him in a window above?
Answer: Not one testified they saw him in a window above

[Thomas Graves]

Why, did one of them say they say him in a window above?
Answer: Not one testified they saw him in a window above

Kleinschmidt,

Where is a person more likely to be noticed -- standing on the landing of the crowded entranceway steps of his or her workplace shortly before, during, and after the president passes by, or sticking his rifle out of a partially open sixth flloor window of said building for about ten seconds while hundreds of people down below are watching the president pass by?

--  MWT 

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

Kleinschmidt,

Where is a person more likely to be noticed -- standing on the landing of the crowded entranceway steps of his or her workplace shortly before, during, and after the president passes by, or sticking his rifle out of a partially open sixth flloor window of said building for about ten seconds while hundreds of people down below are watching the president pass by?

--  MWT 

Are you saying Oswald was in the entrance with a rifle? Come on, these people were not paying attention to what was going on. Reminds of the LNer's btw Martin should become an LN member
The way you make it sound, is that if a rifle was fired from above them, they would write down every person around them like inventory and they say " did you hear what I heard"? Hear what, I'm trying to remember who is around"

[Thomas Graves]

Are you saying Oswald was in the entrance with a rifle? Come on, these people were not paying attention to what was going on. Reminds of the LNer's btw Martin should become an LN member
The way you make it sound, is that if a rifle was fired from above them, they would write down every person around them like inventory and they say " did you hear what I heard"? Hear what, I'm trying to remember who is around"

Kleinschmidt,

It's funny how your apparently brainwashed mind misinterprets everything.

Or maybe it's just that you're such a poor communicator that I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Regardless, let me spell it out for you.

The assassin wasn't kneeling/crouching at the open part of the dirty sixth-floor window for nearly as long as Prayer Person was standing where he/she was standing, therefore he was less likely to be noticed and recognized later up there than was Prayer Person, closely surrounded by people on two sides down below.

Even so, several people did see a white male at that partially open dirty window before, during and after the shooting, but the steep angle of view and/or the distance from the viewer, in conjunction with the fact that the window glass was dirty, precluded the witnesses (none of whom knew Lee Harvey Oswald) from getting a good view of his face.

Seeing as how the assassin was six floors above street level and alone, whereas Prayer Person was about seven feet above street level and in close proximity to several people who probably knew him or her, the chance of Prayer Person's being noticed and recognized before or after the assassination was much greater than the assassin's being noticed and recognized later during the ten seconds or so his face was partially visible in the window.

Taking all of the above into consideration, the fact that no one said they saw Oswald standing on the landing before, during or after the assassination strongly suggests that Oswald wasn't Prayer Person.

--  MWT 

[Alan Ford]

Seeing as how the assassin was six floors above street level and alone, whereas Prayer Person was about seven feet above street level and in close proximity to several people who probably knew him or her, the chance of Prayer Person's being noticed and recognized before or after the assassination was much greater than the assassin's being noticed and recognized later during the ten seconds or so his face was partially visible in the window.

Taking all of the above into consideration, the fact that no one said they saw Oswald standing on the landing before, during or after the assassination strongly suggests that Oswald wasn't Prayer Person.

--  MWT 

 

Two points:

a) The argument driving this thread since October 21st has not been about Prayer Person!

b) You, Mr Graves, join everyone else in being unable to explain this 'shadow' down Mr Lovelady in Wiegman as a natural shadow:



You and your pals can keep up your diversion games till the cows come home, but it won't impact the ability of smart and unbiased readers (incl. lurkers) to note the stark fact:

The Wiegman frames have been monkeyed with in order to hide something.

And no one with a lick of sense is going to doubt that this something must be related to Mr Lee "Went-Outside-To-Watch-P.-Parade" Oswald!

 

[Peter Kleinschmidt]

Kleinschmidt,

It's funny how your apparently brainwashed mind misinterprets everything.

Or maybe it's just that you're such a poor communicator that I don't understand what you're trying to say.

Regardless, let me spell it out for you.

The assassin wasn't kneeling/crouching at the open part of the dirty sixth-floor window for nearly as long as Prayer Person was standing where he/she was standing, therefore he was less likely to be noticed and recognized later up there than was Prayer Person, closely surrounded by people on two sides down below.

Even so, several people did see a white male at that partially open dirty window before, during and after the shooting, but the steep angle of view and/or the distance from the viewer, in conjunction with the fact that the window glass was dirty, precluded the witnesses (none of whom knew Lee Harvey Oswald) from getting a good view of his face.

Seeing as how the assassin was six floors above street level and alone, whereas Prayer Person was about seven feet above street level and in close proximity to several people who probably knew him or her, the chance of Prayer Person's being noticed and recognized before or after the assassination was much greater than the assassin's being noticed and recognized later during the ten seconds or so his face was partially visible in the window.

Taking all of the above into consideration, the fact that no one said they saw Oswald standing on the landing before, during or after the assassination strongly suggests that Oswald wasn't Prayer Person.

--  MWT 

You know he's down below hanging out with other employees. Oswald is not in the window, as a matter of fact, no one is in the window. If you don't see him in the window and I don't see him in the window, then he is not in the window.  Talk to the CIA they have their own prints everywhere. You must be blind.

[Thomas Graves]

You know he's down below hanging out with other employees. Oswald is not in the window, as a matter of fact, no one is in the window. If you don't see him in the window and I don't see him in the window, then he is not in the window.  Talk to the CIA they have their own prints everywhere. You must be blind.

Kleinschmidt,

How ignorant you pretend to be.

Several people saw a man in that window before, during and after the shooting.

Robert Hughes' film even caught movement in that window as the limousine was on Houston Street, approaching the Elm Street curve.

LOL

--  MWT 

[Larry Trotter]

Why, did one of them say they saw him in a window above?
Answer: Not one testified they saw him in a window above

This thread is named Those Front Steps! My comment was relative to Those Front Steps!

However, along with sworn statements/under oath testimony that LeeHarveyOswald was not on the stairs/landing as the Motorcade passed the entrance portal, there is evidentiary valuable indicative information that places him on the 2nd floor in/at the lunchroom about 75 seconds post shooting.