Tom: You are citing connections/associations - mostly of a social type, e.g., weddings - among people and then concluding solely from these connections that these same individuals conspired/worked together to do "X" or "Y".
Showing that person "A" knew person "B" does not prove that "A" and "B" got together to do "X". You just show they may have known one another.
In my view, you have presented no evidence that the Garrison investigation was a deliberate sham - done with Garrison's cooperation - designed to divert attention away from a serious followup investigation.
As to Lambert and QK/ENCHANT: I think her characterization of it and Shaw's role (if any) was fair and honest. Mellen's criticism - and she's a Garrisonite - was wrong. But in my view nearly everything Mellen says about the assassination is wrong (the Trade Mart was NOT, in my opinion, run by CIA operatives). She is right that JFK was killed in Dallas, though.
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Tom Purvis - Posted 20 July, 2005
.....Maids....
....Of course, other Queens of COMUS include the daughter of General Robert E. Lee as well as the daughter of Jefferson Davis
Post #5:
Robert Howard: Would you care to elaborate?
Tom Purvis: Only the daughters of the uppermost "Southern Elite" secured such positions.
Steve, here is a much fairer response to your (unswayable) opinion than I think yours is to my presented facts.
I do not have a time machine or an outsized budget for this, such as the financial resources of a John Armstrong, but I believe I have achieved actual history altering results while, in reality, making very few conclusions about anything, save for the assertion,
considering all of the known facts, no one has so far gotten this right,
not Weissberg, Davy, Mellen, Stone, DiEugenio. Lambert, McAdams, Holland, Donald H Carpenter, Lesar, Morley, the extant released CIA records, or even the representations by Nicholas B. Lemann!The Rise and Fall of Big Jim G. | News | The Harvard Crimson
https://www.thecrimson.com/article/1974/2/6/the-rise-and-fall-of-big/
Feb 6, 1974 - The Rise and Fall of Big Jim G. Politics. By Nicholas Lemann, February 6, 1974 ... Garrison became the district attorney in New Orleans in 1962, .
If you were to ask yourself, what has Scully presented and ACTUALLY CLAIMED that is impeachable? If you can answer that question and stop failing to weigh and then take into account what I have presented in this thread, (your responses indicate to me you have not; in fact you seem to cling to conclusions I believe I have impeached. Case in point is
non-disclosure of exactly the same things by Shaw, Garrison, and by Nicholas B Lemann) your replies will strike me as much less "canned".
Perry Russo was ably represented in that his counsel must have demanded/conducted discovery, per Civil Procedure, considering that Russo was obviously deposed. Read the decision by Fed. Judge Charles Schwartz in Russo v. Conde Nast, and then weigh this.;
I made smalll typo, I meant it to read, Liz Ziegler Garrison.:
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/10/books/review/transaction-man-nicholas-lemann.htmlSept., 10, 2019
https://www.leagle.com/decision/19921409806fsupp60311312.....
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When Russo was questioned in deposition as to whether he had any reason to believe that Lemann or any one at GQ harbored any animosity toward him, he essentially admitted that he had no reason to believe that either were out to hurt him, to wit:Q. Do you have any reason to believe that Mr. Lemann has any animosity toward you or bad feelings toward you other than the fact, the mere fact of publication of the article?
A. As a personal thing, no, but I've always felt that those that were — that would purport to write stories of Garrison's case were after Garrison. And to be after Garrison meant to attack whatever Garrison based his case upon. And one of the witnesses in that case is myself — in that case was myself. And so to dismiss me as a grifter, he had no personal thing against me but he does intend to destroy Garrison's image or the legacy of Garrison. And so the best way would be to destroy me in the process.
Q. Well, do you have any facts upon which you base you suggestion that Mr. Lemann was out to destroy Garrison's image other than this article?
A. No.
Q. And how about G.Q. Magazine? Do you know or have you ever had any dealings with anybody connected with G.Q. Magazine or the people that publish G.Q. Magazine that would lead you to believe that they had anything in for you or that they had any reason to try to hurt you?
A. No.8.....
Steve, if after reading the rather brief Russo court decision material to my argument I linked to and excerpted of and still believe Russo would not have answered differently if "journalist" Nicholas Lemann had disclosed his conflict of interests at some point (at any point) before Russo was deposed, I anticipate we have nothing more to attempt agreement about. Consider, too if Lemann, with no post graduate degree and this ongoing disclosure "lapse",
was a choice as Dean of CGSJ that is actually fair to those Columbia grad school students or to ethical journalism in the US, generally?Addressing your reiterated point, I strive to take a reasonable approach. It seems fair to share with you that I counted 348 other students in that Princeton U. sophomore class aside from members Churchward and Dulles, BUT:
there must be some reasonable explanation for how New Hampshire born, New Haven, CT resident Willard E Robertson went from former men's attire salesclerk, to sandwich shop mgr, to small tavern mgr., to Jack Churchward's "woodworker" at age 36, in 1944, to multi-millionaire of 1961, in the 17 years between woodworker and foreign automobile S.E. US import/magnate, and kingmaker of Louisiana political contenders, including Mayor Schiro, Gov. McKeithen, NODA Garrison...
We are considering a New England guy with a wife, two kids, and an undercapitalized economic venture supporting his arrival in NOLA in 1948. Jack Churchward filed for bankruptcy later that same year and SteelCraft boats of the S.E. piloted by Willard Robertson never took off.
How does a middleaged man of limited means and resume, set back by very recent divorce involving children come to learn enough about Louisiana politics to both be quite effective at the same time he is also suddenly building a business empire,
with no visible ties to the financing required... getting the financing, local political savvy, and the local connections and management organization to do, in 8 short years, by 1961, the factual details represent Willard Robertson as having done?
IOW, Robertson's gargantuan reversals, on all fronts, even as literally a stranger in a strange land, are less reasonable than my introduction of two of 350 Princeton sophomores, "into the mix"!
Willard....Willard, who?
All of the other Volkswagen regional distributors were, to say the least, a cut above Robertson, both in wealth and in imported automobile marketing and servicing.
Charles Urschel, Jr. was step-brother of Tom and Earl F Slick. Willard E Robertson, Jr. was the employee of failing Steelcraft Boats of West Haven, CT in 1952. He is buried in New Hampshire.
Getting the Bugs Out: The Rise, Fall, and Comeback of Volkswagen in ...
https://books.google.com/books?isbn=0471263044
David Kiley - 2002 - Business & Economics
... Luther Johnson (brothers) in Oakland, California; William Boeing, Jr. (aircraft ... and Indiana; Charles Urschel, Jr., in San Antonio, Texas; Willard Robertson in ... the Delta states and Tennessee; and Jack Pry in Washington, D.C.13 Van de ...
However, Robertson seperated and divorced from wife Sally and later court proceedings indicate also, from their two children, as well. Robertson and his office secretary at Steelcraft S.E., 17 years his junior, married in 1953. In 1959, Marie Gossom Robertson's death resulted in an auto accident riding in a vehicle driven by Willard Robertson.
This is a deliberative, thoughtful, methodical inquiry I stumbled into by accident in late fall, 2015. As long as it continues to bear fruit, why would I stop?
His daughter's death in a car driven by Robertson had no averse effect on the growing business ties with Gossom and his
two sons. Ernest Gossom had been manager of the NOLA CC since the early 1920s. Burke's golf tournament participation can be documented to 1925 and Burke's obit, as well as Lloyd Ray's include that club membership. Burke's daughter's findagrave entry documents her selection as Comus's queen in the 1950 carnival. Comus remains anonymous.
The 1949 host of Burke's daughters buffet, batchelor Spencer, was Burke's best man in 1927. Spencer and Burke demonstrate lasting friendship, and Spencer's Hill School (Pottstown, PA) classmate and Princeton roommate was, by 1954, Allen Dulles's Science Officer.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/100520469/constance-ivy-fedoroff
Constance Ivy Burke Fedoroff
...Daughter of Mrs. William P. Burke
Queen MKC 1950.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistick_Krewe_of_Comus
The Mistick Krewe of Comus, founded in 1856, is a New Orleans, Louisiana Carnival krewe. It is the oldest continuous organization of New Orleans Mardi Gras festivities.
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Carnival secrecy and exclusivity
Comus has jealously guarded the identities of its membership and the privacy of its activities (other than its parade), perhaps even more than the other Carnival organizations subscribing to the traditional code of secrecy.
