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Online Charles Collins

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #88 on: October 10, 2019, 09:34:56 PM »
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Offline Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #89 on: October 10, 2019, 09:48:17 PM »
Hugh Aynesworth had over thirty plus years of reporting which included hundreds, if not thousands, of articles (and several books). We are literally talking about tens, maybe hundreds of thousands of words. Thousands of interviews. It's a lot of work including not only the JFK assassination but the Waco siege, Ted Bundy and other horrible stories.

To my knowledge there hasn't been a single allegation of any unethical or improper reporting on his part. No one has claimed that he or she was misquoted, no stories were retracted, no allegations of inaccurate stories (although I'm sure over that time he got some facts wrong).

This is a serious, professional journalist. Not a hack.

Yet we're supposed to consider his "hearsay" as not being any more credible than anyone else's "hearsay"?
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Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #90 on: October 10, 2019, 10:07:13 PM »
Earlene Roberts WC testimony

Mrs. Roberts: He went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket.

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And Oswald was wearing a Tshirt that day, not an undershirt

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #91 on: October 10, 2019, 10:27:47 PM »
This is a serious, professional journalist. Not a hack.

Yet we're supposed to consider his "hearsay" as not being any more credible than anyone else's "hearsay"?

If he thought that Mrs. Roberts said that Oswald “changed his jacket”, then yes.

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #92 on: October 10, 2019, 10:48:04 PM »
Both claims can be correct.

It appears that in your world "she saw him run off the porch to the left and that was the last time she saw him" can also mean that "she saw him at the bus stop just after the 1:00 news came on television.” (By the way the bus stop is in front of the house to the right as you run off the porch.)

It appears that in your world left means right, and last time means last time other than the next time. If I remember correctly you are also the one who argued that even though Wesley Frazier told an untruth, that didn't mean that he lied.

Did Alice tell you these things (when she was ten feet tall)? ::)

Semantics.

As you have demonstrated so very well with this post, people simply do not get everything correct and 100% complete every time. In this instance you've got nothing right. Better luck next time....

If I remember correctly you are also the one who argued that even though Wesley Frazier told an untruth, that didn't mean that he lied.

Could it be your memory is playing tricks with your mind? What untruth did Wesley Frazier tell?

On the one hand we have the recollection of Aynesworth, as expressed by Larry Sneed, in his book published in 1998 and on the other hand we have an affidavit given by Earlene Roberts to the Secret Service on December 5th 1963 and you prefer to go with a 35 year old recollection over a statement by the witness herself only days after the murders. Go figure....

The funny thing is that none of it matters. The timeline established by the WC leaves very little room for Oswald's arrival at the rooming house sustantially earlier than 1 pm, making it physically impossible for a walking or running Oswald to be on 10th and Patton at 1.06 or 1.07, which IMO the best evidence shows is when Tippit was killed.
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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #93 on: October 10, 2019, 10:52:11 PM »
Earlene Roberts WC testimony

Mrs. Roberts: He went to his room and he was in his shirt sleeves but I couldn't tell you whether it was a long-sleeved shirt or what color it was or nothing, and he got a jacket and put it on---it was kind of a zipper jacket.

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And Oswald was wearing a Tshirt that day, not an undershirt

Could Roberts possibly be just another unreliable witness with an ever changing story?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #94 on: October 11, 2019, 12:23:06 AM »
Three shots with only two shells?

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337332/m1/1/

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337332/m1/1/

"Vince Drain also present.  Actually took possession of all the evidence." signed... JC Day

Yes, indeed he did..... and he initialed the 3X5 index card when he took possession of it ......

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2019, 12:36:23 AM »
https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337332/m1/1/

"Vince Drain also present.  Actually took possession of all the evidence." signed... JC Day

Yes, indeed he did..... and he initialed the 3X5 index card when he took possession of it ......

Walt, what does "all the evidence" mean to you?

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Re: Tippit Shooting, 1:15
« Reply #95 on: October 11, 2019, 12:36:23 AM »