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[Gary Craig]

Lee Bowers saw people standing behind the fence on the grassy knoll.
Railroad workers standing on the triple overpass heard shots and and saw smoke coming from the grassy knoll fence line.
The HSCA sound tests on the open mike police recording determined there was at least one shot from the approximate spot on the knoll fence line indicated by the railroad workers.

[Gary Craig]

http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Decker_Ex_5323.pdf

DECKER EXHIBIT No. 5323

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"As I heard the
first retort, I looked back over my shoulder and saw
what appeared to me to be a spray of water come out of
the rear seat of the President's car . At this same
moment, Mr . Lawson said, "Let's get out of here and
get to the nearest hospital". When I heard the shots
I noted motorcycle officers coming off their cycles
and running up the embankment on Dealey Plaza."

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Before me,the undersigned authority, on this the 22nd day of November 23, 1963
personally appeared Hugh William Betzner, Jr. Address 5922 Velasco, Dallas
Age 22

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"Then the President's car sped on
under the underpass . Police and a lot of spectators started running up
the hill on the opposite side of the street from me to a fence of wood . I
assumed that that was where the shot was fired from at that time . I kept
watching the crowd."

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Before me, the undersigned authority, on this the 22 day of November 22, l963
personally appeared S . M. Holland Address 1119 Lucille, Irvin

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"I looked over toward the arcade and trees and saw a puff of
smoke come from the trees and I heard three more shots after the first
Shot but that was the only puff of smoke I saw . I immediately ran around
to where I could see behind the arcade and did not see anyone running
from there . But the puff of smoke I saw definitely came from behind
the arcade through the trees."

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Before me, the undersigned authority. on this the 22nd day of November 23, 1963
personally appeared William Eugene Newman

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"Then the car sped away and
everybody in that area had run upon top of that little mound . I thought the
shots had come from the garden directly behind me, that was on an elevation
from where I was as I was right on the curb. I do not recall looking toward
the Texas School Book Depository . I looked back in the vacinity of the Garden."

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Before me, the undersigned authority. on this the 22nd day of November 1963
petsonally appeared Mr J.C. Price Address 9602 Astor, Dallas

"This day at about 1235 PM I was on the roof of the Termaniel Annex Bldg on the
NE Corner when the presidential Motorcade came down Main to Houston, North on
Houston and then West on Elm. The cars had proceeded West on Elm and was
just a short distance from the Tripple underpass, when I saw Gov Connelly
slump over . I did not see the president as his car had gotten out of my
view under the underpass . There was a volley of shots, I think five and then
much later, maybe as much as five minutes later another one . I saw one man
run towards the passenger cars on the railroad siding after the volley of shots.
This man had a white dress shirt, no tie and kahki colored trousers . His hair
appeared to be long and dark and his agility running could be about 25 yrs of
age. He had something in his hand."

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Before me. the undersigned Authority, on this the 23rd day of November 1963
personally appeared Malcolm Summers.

"Yesterday, November 22, 1963, I was standing on the terrace of the
small park on Elm Street to watch the President's motorcade . The
President's car had just come up in front of me when I heard a shot
and aaw the President slump down in the car and beard Mrs . Kennedy
say, "Oh, no" ., then a second shot and then I hit the ground as I
realized these were shots . Then all of the people started running
up the terrace away from the President's car and I got up and started
running also, not realizing what had happened . In just a few moments
the President's car sped off and everybody was just running around
towards the railroad tracks and I knew that they had somebody trapped
up there."

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COUNTY OF DALLAS
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
SUPPLEMENTARY INVESTIGATION . REPORT
Name of Complainant
PRESIDENT JOHN F . KENNEDY
ASSASSINATION

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"I ran around the Corner and directly across the street across the Dealy
Plaza to the Elm street side of the triple underpass . As we were
running across the street, we could see the presidential car pulling away
under the underpass and we cintinued on to the immediate area. Some stopped
to talk to people standing there as there were a number of women who
were hysterical. We could not get any information except that the
President had been shot, Several of the other officers in the group ran
on into the freight yards."

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ASSASSINATION OF PRESIDENT KENNEDY
COUNTY OF DALLAS
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
SUPPLEMENTARY INVESTIGATION REPORT
Officer A . D. McCurley, Deputy Sheriff, Dallas County Sheriff's Office .
Ralph Walters

"I heard a retort and immediately recognized it as the sound of a rifle. I started running around the corner where I knew the
President's car should be and in a matter of a few seconds heard a second shot and then a third shot, I, along with other
officers who had been standing near me, all started running and I rushed towards the park and saw people running towards
the railroad yards beyond Elm street..."

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http://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Decker_Ex_5323.pdf

[John Iacoletti]

From Myer's book on the Tippit shooting: "The exact time that Brewer heard the radio broadcast on the shooting of Office Tippit is not known, although it was very likely broadcast at about 1:31 p.m. over KBOX radio.

The only reason Myers considers this "likely" is because KBOX is the only major station with no existing recordings of what was broadcast that day.

Again, you wrote that he stated in his affidavit/testimony about listening to KLIF. Where did he say this? I can't find it.

This is all I could find:

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=16235#relPageId=9&tab=page

Griggs: I know this is a crazy question but is there any way of recalling which programme, which station, you were listening to?

Brewer: A Dallas station.  I have a feeling it may have been KLIF. That would be one of the stations that I would ordinarily be listening to, but I honestly don't know.  It was just the normal run of the motorcade and all of a sudden you hear all the commotion and then you hear something about shots being fired and then - you know.

Griggs: So it was actually being broadcast live. I see. What about Tippit's murder?

Brewer: I also - now that was just a few blocks away. But I heard there was a shooting in the Oak Cliff area - now they didn't say anything about who it was. I don't recall that it was said that there was a policeman down, or what, but I do recall hearing something about a shooting in the Oak Cliff area. And just very shortly after that, the sirens of the cars all converging on Zangs and Jefferson or just going towards it.

[John Iacoletti]

Of course, he was detained as a suspect in a shooting. Another person was briefly detained for the shooting as well. In fact, Brewer was also briefly detained when police opened the back of the theater.

They would have to have had probable cause to detain somebody as a suspect in a shooting.  Looking funny to a shoe salesman is not probable cause of a murder having been committed.

If these other two individuals pulled a gun out and fought with the police they too would have been brought in. Apparently the view is that Oswald should have been released.

Oswald was arrested for murder, not for pulling a gun out and fighting with police.



Note that the boxes for "resisted" and "fought" are not checked.  And the box for "officer(s) injured" was not checked.

[Thomas Graves]

Lee Bowers saw people standing behind the fence on the grassy knoll.
Railroad workers standing on the triple overpass heard shots and and saw smoke coming from the grassy knoll fence line.
The HSCA sound tests on the open mike police recording determined there was at least one shot from the approximate spot on the knoll fence line indicated by the railroad workers.

If so, then I guess we now know what Gilberto Policarpo Lopez, Miguel Casas Saez, and Igor Vaganov were doing that day.

--  MWT 

[Jerry Freeman]

Again, you wrote that he stated in his affidavit/testimony about listening to KLIF. Where did he say this? I can't find it.
I'll offer - and try to find support for it - that a radio announcement of the shooting was broadcast well before 1:55.

If it was up your backside could you find it? Here I'll help you out....
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=UUF_mQgKpqDBPDWF-pHRTMgg
AGAIN listening to the KLIF broadcast the first announcement came at 1:55PM CST that a policeman had been SHOT [did not say killed]
It was reported that Brewer heard the cop had been killed @1:30
https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/johnny-calvin-brewer-man-helped-catch-jfk-assassin-lee-harvey-oswald-honored-dallas-police-article-1.981586
 

[Jerry Freeman]

Lee Bowers saw people standing behind the fence on the grassy knoll.
Railroad workers standing on the triple overpass heard shots and and saw smoke coming from the grassy knoll fence line.
 

[Jerry Freeman]

It was reported that Brewer heard the cop had been killed @1:30

It was announced at 1:37 PM CST that the president had died. Announced by WBAP radio at 1:56 that a Dallas policeman had been shot and killed.

I will let whoever wants to check the math.