Back to the movies with Julia Postal

[John Mytton]

You will find..@5:25 cops say they have a suspect in custody [no idea who this might have been]
12:28 Repeats that and are looking for another guy
13:44-14:25 Shots were reported as coming from the grassy knoll...the president was shot in the right temple....a Dallas detective was dead at Parkland Hosp. of a gunshot [no other info]
24:30 MOMENTS AGO a policeman reported shot in Oak Cliff 10th and Patton [no description of any assailant was given at that time]

25:12 "The assailant of officer Tippit captured in the Texas Theater on west Jefferson".

JohnM

[Bill Chapman]

A) they had no cause to arrest him when they approached him in the theater. Or even cause to search him.
>>> https://johnhelms.attorney/how-long-can-the-police-detain-me/
"When police officers detain someone, they have not yet made an arrest. However, when someone is detained by the police, they are not free to simply walk away. Police may detain people in a variety of situations."
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Oswald had his 4th Amendment right to ask why he was being detained, searched or even questioned. He could have done this calmly. Instead, he decided to duke it out for some strange reason:

Mr. BELIN - Then what did you see?
Mr. BREWER - Well, I saw this policeman approach Oswald, and Oswald stood up and I heard some hollering. I don't know exactly what he said, and this man hit Patrolman McDonald.
Mr. BELIN - You say this man hit Patrolman McDonald. Did you know it was Patrolman McDonald?
Mr. BREWER - I didn't know his name, but I had seen him quite a few times around Oak Cliff. But I didn't know his name.
Mr. BELIN - Then you later found out this was Patrolman McDonald?
Mr. BREWER - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Did you say this man was the same man?
Mr. BREWER - The same man that had stood in my lobby that I followed to the show.
Mr. BELIN - Who hit who first?
Mr. BREWER - Oswald hit McDonald first, and he knocked him to the seat.

C) the “resisted” box is unmarked on the arrest report.
>>> Judge Johnny: Mr Oswald, were all the right boxes checked on the arrest report?
Mr. Oswald: No, sir.
Judge Johnny: Okay, you're free to go.

[John Iacoletti]

A) they had no cause to arrest him when they approached him in the theater. Or even cause to search him.
>>> https://johnhelms.attorney/how-long-can-the-police-detain-me/
"When police officers detain someone, they have not yet made an arrest. However, when someone is detained by the police, they are not free to simply walk away. Police may detain people in a variety of situations."

Did you actually read the article or just do another one of your legendary ignorant cut and paste jobs?

Not only does “looking funny to a shoe salesman” not constitute reasonable suspicion of murder, but the reasonable suspicion standard didn’t even exist yet in 1963.

Oswald had his 4th Amendment right to ask why he was being detained, searched or even questioned. He could have done this calmly. Instead, he decided to duke it out for some strange reason:

I don’t think there’s anything in the 4th amendment that says “cops can make people do anything they damn well please”, Canuck.

C) the “resisted” box is unmarked on the arrest report.
>>> Judge Johnny: Mr Oswald, were all the right boxes checked on the arrest report?
Mr. Oswald: No, sir.
Judge Johnny: Okay, you're free to go.

Judge: why does the official arrest report not mention Oswald assaulting an officer, or resisting arrest, or that an officer was injured?

McDonald: well, your honor, at that time I hadn’t made up that particular story yet.

[Bill Chapman]

Did you actually read the article or just do another one of your legendary ignorant cut and paste jobs?
>>> By all means feel free to show how my 'c&p jobs' qualify as 'ignorant'
 
Not only does “looking funny to a shoe salesman” not constitute reasonable suspicion of murder, but the reasonable suspicion standard didn’t even exist yet in 1963.
>>> Brewer was an alert citizen who became reasonably suspicious without needing to wait for permission from any law.   

I don’t think there’s anything in the 4th amendment that says “cops can make people do anything they damn well please”, Canuck.
>>> 'Canuck', LOL... you wouldn't be trying to claim my cite was from Canadian Law, now would you, JudgeJohhny?

My cite is from an American lawyer, Tex.
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Judge: why does the official arrest report not mention Oswald assaulting an officer, or resisting arrest, or that an officer was injured?
McDonald: well, your honor, at that time I hadn’t made up that particular story yet.
>>> JudgeJohnny: All the witnesses were lying anyway. I know that because I said so.

EDIT (TYPO): 'Damn well please'

[Jack Trojan]

Those DPD were crackerjack alright. JFK gets shot at 12.30 and they apprehended Oswald 1 hour later in the theater. Fritz was a fricken genius!

Doesn't anyone else think the discovery of the murder weapon and converging on Oswald at the theater was a bit too expedient, especially for the Keystone Cop DPD?

ETA: How the hell did Hoover know so much about everything less than 24 hrs after the Big Event?

[Thomas Graves]

Those DPD were crackerjack alright. JFK gets shot at 12.30 and they apprehend Oswald 1 hour later in the theater. Fritz was a fricken genius!

Doesn't anyone else think the discovery of the murder weapon and converging on Oswald at the theater was a bit too expedient, especially for the Keystone Cop DPD?

ETA: How the hell did Hoover know so much about everything less than 24 hrs after the Big Event?

It must have been a conspiracy!

[Jack Trojan]

It must have been a conspiracy!

Or Fritz was a genius who handled crucial evidence with his bare hands and staged the crime scene of the century...or the evil evil KGB did it. Which way are you leaning Tommy?

[Thomas Graves]

Or Fritz was a genius who handled crucial uhcevidence with his bare hands and staged the crime scene of the century...or the evil evil KGB did it. Which way are you leaning Tommy?

Jack,

I thought I'd posted somewhere that I believe Oswald, being more Marxist-Leninist than Khrushchev, himself, and being thoroughly fed up with life in the USSR and in America (and maybe even at being "used" by both CIA-FBI and the KGB), decided to take matters into his own hands and ... gasp ... advance "The Dialectic," which, of course, the KGB has been more than happy over the years to blame on Far-Right Southern Oilmen and The Minutemen, and/or the Military Industrial Complex, and/or the Military Industrial Intelligence Community Complex, and/or Rogue Elements In The CIA And The Whole Dallas Police Department, and/or The All-Encompassing FBI-and-CIA-Enforced "Deep State," or on Reptile Aliens and Jimi Hendrix Haters, ... or some-such thing.

Whatever could best serve the promulgation of tinfoil hat conspiracy theories in general, the concomitant dumbing down of American society, and the paving of the way to our eventually "electing" a pro-Kremlin useful idiot like Donald Trump to the Presidency so that he or she could (unwittingly, I guess) lead us into a Full-On Bump-Stocked Civil War?

D'oh

--  MWT