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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #112 on: November 19, 2019, 02:12:30 AM »
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    You are asking for a time period when Filming was Not being done. (2-3 minutes). I am asking you for PROOF as to EXACTLY when filming STARTED between the corner of Main/Houston to the corner of Elm/Houston. I do Not recall seeing any images taken by camera car photogs while the camera cars were traveling down the entire length of Houston. Add the time period the Camera Cars were at a DEAD STOP, and we have an extended time period when these photogs, (Darnell/Couch) were Not filming.

Royell,

What does it matter whether or not any of the photographers in the three camera cars were filming between Main and Houston and Houston and Elm?

Regardless, doesn't Weigman, filming while his car was entering and negotiating the Elm Street Curve, count?

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Offline Royell Storing

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« Reply #113 on: November 19, 2019, 03:53:00 PM »
Royell,

What does it matter whether or not any of the photographers in the three camera cars were filming between Main and Houston and Houston and Elm?

Regardless, doesn't Weigman, filming while his car was entering and negotiating the Elm Street Curve, count?

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      Wiegman jumped out of his camera car as it began the turn due to it slowing to what was most likely a Stop. Show me Wiegman footage which displays Lovelady and Shelley moving down the Elm St Ext.  Time Stamping Lovelady and Shelley going down the Elm Ext also Time Stamps films which allegedly shows them doing such. (Both Lovelady and Shelley gave WC Testiomony of this occurring roughly 2-3 minutes following the Kill Shot). Also, Wiegman was in Camera Car #1 vs Darnell and Couch being BACK BEHIND in Camera Car #3 is also Stopped. Again, Camera Car #2 being filmed at a Dead Stop factors into the Time Stamping. If Camera Car #2 is Stopped, likewise Camera Car #3. The lack of progress these camera cars were making is what prompted Photogs to bail out of them.
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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #114 on: November 19, 2019, 07:00:49 PM »
      Wiegman jumped out of his camera car as it began the turn due to it slowing to what was most likely a Stop. Show me Wiegman footage which displays Lovelady and Shelley moving down the Elm St Ext.  Time Stamping Lovelady and Shelley going down the Elm Ext also Time Stamps films which allegedly shows them doing such. (Both Lovelady and Shelley gave WC Testiomony of this occurring roughly 2-3 minutes following the Kill Shot). Also, Wiegman was in Camera Car #1 vs Darnell and Couch being BACK BEHIND in Camera Car #3 is also Stopped. Again, Camera Car #2 being filmed at a Dead Stop factors into the Time Stamping. If Camera Car #2 is Stopped, likewise Camera Car #3. The lack of progress these camera cars were making is what prompted Photogs to bail out of them.

Royell,

The shots started ringing out while Wiegman's car was making the curve. I thought you knew that.

Lovelady and Shelley were still scratching their asses on the steps at that time.

Heck, Gloria Calvery and her all-white colleague, Carol Reed, hadn't even gotten to those steps by the time Wiegman jumped out and started booking it down Elm Street.

But seein' as how Calvery and Reed were standing only about 60 yards away from the TSBD on Elm Street when Kennedy's head was blown off, 25 seconds or so (i.e., when Darnell started filming) was plenty of time for them to get the steps and be "caught" in the group photo.

D'oh

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Offline John Iacoletti

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« Reply #115 on: November 19, 2019, 07:08:25 PM »
Heck, Gloria Calvery and her all-white colleague, Carol Reed,

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« Reply #116 on: November 19, 2019, 07:23:34 PM »
 
"Gloria Calvery and her all-in-white colleague, Carol Reed." -- MWT

LOL -- Iacoletti

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John,

Correct.

Meanwhile, your and Westbrook's "uhh ... probably Carol Reed, definitely Gloria Cavery, and me, Karen Westbrook!" (in reality Stella Mae Jacob, Gloria Holt and Sharon Simmons) were filmed a few minutes later walking across the Pergola Patio by Mr. Towner (and across the grassy slope by Darnell), having reconstituted their little group after temporarily losing Reed in the chaos immediately following the fatal head shot, as evidenced by an earlier Cabluck photo.

--  MWT  ;)

PS  Or do you still believe that those three people on the Pergola Patio in Towner aren't Jacob, Holt and Reed, and might not even be women, but ... gasp ...men wearing Bermuda shorts, with the one on the right holding a baby blue helium-filled balloon on a head-high string?
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Offline Zeon Mason

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« Reply #117 on: November 19, 2019, 09:00:56 PM »
Should not Baker have noticed this mans rather noticeable bald spot?




Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #118 on: November 19, 2019, 09:19:17 PM »
Should not Baker have noticed this mans rather noticeable bald spot?

Mr Hughes is filming from an elevated position:



Also------------sunlight.

But thank you for bringing the thread back on topic!  Thumb1:

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Is This Our Man?
« Reply #119 on: November 19, 2019, 10:54:15 PM »
Graves - get a life and stop derailing every thread with your unhinged obsession with men's shorts.

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