The "smirk"

[John Iacoletti]

Running across a lawn is not much more suspicious than looking in a shoe store window.  But at least in this case the cops actually saw the behavior.

But what "Secret Service man" was hanging around the library telling the cops who was or was not the right man?

[Thomas Graves]

Running across a lawn is not much more suspicious than looking in a shoe store window.  But at least in this case the cops actually saw the behavior.

But what "Secret Service man" was hanging around the library telling the cops who was or was not the right man?

John,

I love the way you "spin" language to suit your mission.

--  MWT 

[Thomas Graves]

Running across a lawn is not much more suspicious than looking in a shoe store window.  But at least in this case the cops actually saw the behavior.

But what "Secret Service man" was hanging around the library telling the cops who was or was not the right man?

John,

I think that so-called "Secret Service Man" was part of the Fascist Deep State Conspiracy, don't you?

That guy was sprinting across the library lawn not far from where Tippit was murdered because he was late for work as a "page," and the Fascist Deep State police obviously knew that, but brutalized him anyway!

And Brewer was obviously lying like a rug when he said Oswald was "acting furtively" in the front alcove while the Fascist Deep State police cars were passing by.

Hey, John, how big of a conspiracy do you figure it was?

Couple hundred thousand?

More?

Enough "leads" and contradictory "evidence" to write about for fifty some-odd years, to dumb-down and alienate the populace to such an extent that Putin's installing Trump was a breeze?

--  MWT 
 

[Charles Collins]

Running across a lawn is not much more suspicious than looking in a shoe store window.  But at least in this case the cops actually saw the behavior.

But what "Secret Service man" was hanging around the library telling the cops who was or was not the right man?

I would agree that, under ordinary circumstances, running across a lawn would not be likely to be considered suspicious. But this was during an intense manhunt for an armed cop killer who was last seen running from the nearby murder scene.

[John Iacoletti]

I would agree that, under ordinary circumstances, running across a lawn would not be likely to be considered suspicious. But this was during an intense manhunt for an armed cop killer who was last seen running from the nearby murder scene.

Oh, I know why they were manhandling anybody they felt like, but that doesn't make it ok.

[John Iacoletti]

How big a conspiracy do you figure it was, anyway?

Couple hundred?

More?

How many people helped you beat your wife?

[Thomas Graves]

How many people helped you beat your wife?

John,

I had a typo in my OP.

I meant to say "Couple thousand?"

--  MWT 

[Charles Collins]

Oh, I know why they were manhandling anybody they felt like, but that doesn't make it ok.

The DPD were not "manhandling anybody they felt like." The DPD were called to the Texas Theater and the suspect was pointed out to them by Brewer. They were told by Julia Postal that he appeared to be running form the police and had entered the theater without purchasing a ticket. They could see for themselves whether or not they thought he fit the description of the cop killer before they even approached him. Therefore the police had reasonable suspicion, which could be articulated at a later date, (not just a hunch) that the person may be armed and dangerous: (1)-a murder had just occurred in that neighborhood and the murderer had been (2)-seen running away in the direction of the theater, the man in the theater had been reported to (3)-appear to be running from the police and (4)-ducking into the theater without purchasing a ticket, the police could see for themselves whether or not they thought he (5)-fit the description of the killer.

Technically, the concept of the Terry Stop originated in 1968, so it wasn't applicable in 1963. It was in response to police tactics in Cleveland, Ohio which were being challenged. The results of the challenge amounted to a restriction, reasonable suspicion, (not a loosening) of the stop and frisk practices that had been used freely up until that time. Therefore the DPD didn't even technically need "reasonable suspicion" but they did have it, nonetheless.