This is why “FBI said so” is not a good argument

[Thomas Graves]

How large was the stick you used to beat your wife, Thomas?

That big, huh?

What "turned you on" to the assassination, John?

Oliver "I Like KGB-Boy Vladimir Putin And My Son Works For RT" Stone's JFK?

--  MWT 

[Richard Smith]

John,

What makes you think it was unscientific?

Because the results weren't what you hoping for?

If the results had been "probably not Oswald," would you have been happy with that?

--  MWT 

PS  "Missing" like the "DNC's server in corrupt, fascistic/communistic Ukraine," or just ... missing?

Remember that when asked why he thought John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln our dishonest contrarian cited - wait for it - Booth's handwritten diary!  LOL.  I guess handwriting analysis is only "unscientific" when it goes against the desired outcome.   The game here is to conjure up fake doubt of any evidence that lends itself towards Oswald's guilt.  And the last desperation move in that game is always to claim the investigators are suspect which means nothing can ever be proven.  False doubt is the inevitable result of the application of an impossible standard of proof.

[Thomas Graves]

Remember that when asked why he thought John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln our dishonest contrarian cited - wait for it - Booth's handwritten diary!  LOL.  I guess handwriting analysis is only "unscientific" when it goes against the desired outcome.   The game here is to conjure up fake doubt of any evidence that lends itself towards Oswald's guilt.  And the last desperation move in that game is always to claim the investigators are suspect which means nothing can ever be proven.  False doubt is the inevitable result of the application of an impossible standard of proof.

Richard,

Great post.

The way I see it, Iacoletti is wittingly or unwittingly carrying on the KGB-approved and subsidized tradition, established by Mark Lane, of casting unwarranted doubt on most if not all of the evidence.

Vladimir Putin loves John (and his ilk) for all the chaos, confusion and doubt he creates regarding the JFK Assassination, and all of the aspersions he casts on the evil, evil FBI and the evil, evil, evil CIA.

And this from a dude who can't tell women from men in the Towner film!

LOL

--  MWT 

[Michael Walton]

So I guess they got this wrong as well. Even though the mark on the FBI stand-in matches almost exactly with the back wound:



But of course every single time I bring this up, the FBI Fan Boys on here will throw shade on it (as in obfuscate) by babbling about the jacket being bunched up and all other BS.

[Jack Trojan]

Richard,

Great post.

The way I see it, Iacoletti is wittingly or unwittingly carrying on the KGB-approved and subsidized tradition, established by Mark Lane, of casting unwarranted doubt on most if not all of the evidence.

Vladimir Putin loves John (and his ilk) for all the chaos, confusion and doubt he creates regarding the JFK Assassination, and all of the aspersions he casts on the evil, evil FBI and the evil, evil, evil CIA.

And this from a dude who can't tell women from men in the Towner film!

LOL

--  MWT 

What's with your obsession with the KGB? And do you actually believe that Dulles, Angleton, Hoover and Johnson weren't evil, evil, evil enough to pull off a coup? Surely they were just as evil, evil, evil as the KGB.

Did the KGB also set up Thomas Arthur Vallee in Chicago, like they did for Oswald in Dallas? How did those evil, evil, evil KGB pull that one off? And why would they risk nuclear annihilation to whack JFK when they knew Johnson would not be the dove that JFK proved to be? It makes no sense. You have to get over your pet theory that the KGB trained Oswald then he went rogue and became a LN assassin. Is this so you can work in the KGB element and continue to be a LNer? Why would you want that title in the face of a mountain of evidence suggesting otherwise? It just sounds like more evil, evil, evil KGB disinformation to me. 

[John Iacoletti]

Remember that when asked why he thought John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln our dishonest contrarian cited - wait for it - Booth's handwritten diary!  LOL.  I guess handwriting analysis is only "unscientific" when it goes against the desired outcome.

First of all I didn't say that's why I thought John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln, or even that I thought John Wilkes Booth assassinated Lincoln.  Second of all, there was no handwriting analysis done on Booth's diary.  Double failure on Lying "Richard"'s part.

Your trotting out of the Lincoln case is just one giant false equivalence, designed to evade ever having to justify your faith-based conclusion about Oswald.

  The game here is to conjure up fake doubt of any evidence that lends itself towards Oswald's guilt.

No, your game is to conjure up fake certainty that evidence lends itself towards Oswald's guilt.  Evidence that you never seem to get around to specifying.

[Thomas Graves]

What's with your obsession with the KGB? And do you actually believe that Dulles, Angleton, Hoover and Johnson weren't evil, evil, evil enough to pull off a coup? Surely they were just as evil, evil, evil as the KGB.

Did the KGB also set up Thomas Arthur Vallee in Chicago, like they did for Oswald in Dallas? How did those evil, evil, evil KGB pull that one off? And why would they risk nuclear annihilation to whack JFK when they knew Johnson would not be the dove that JFK proved to be? It makes no sense. You have to get over your pet theory that the KGB trained Oswald then he went rogue and became a LN assassin. Is this so you can work in the KGB element and continue to be a LNer? Why would you want that title in the face of a mountain of evidence suggesting otherwise? It just sounds like more evil, evil, evil KGB disinformation to me. 

Jack,

Look at where we are today with a Putin-installed president, and look at all the dumbing-down of American society that had to take place for that to happen, and look at all of the tinfoil hat conspiracy theories on several different issues we have had over the past fifty or so years that have contributed to that dumbing down process, and think about how the JFK assassination gave rise to many of those conspiracy theories, and think about how the recent "Ukraine, not Russia, hacked the DNC's emails," propaganda came out of Russia, and read Tennent H. Bagley's  Spy Wars and Mark Reibling's Wedge: The Secret War Between the FBI and CIA (especially chapter 10 regarding your contention that the Kremlin wouldn't have risked nuclear war to kill JFK), and read Edward J. Epstein's Deception, and watch PBS's Putin's Way, etc, etc, etc, ... and, ... well, ... connect the dots.

--  MWT 

[Richard Smith]

You know Dishonest John is running scared when he resorts to his new buzz phrase "false equivalency."  LOL.  The only "false equivalency" here is that our dishonest contrarian can't reconcile his use of an impossible standard of proof in the JFK case with the Lincoln assassination (Booth is guilty but there is somehow doubt of Oswald's guilt).  For example, where did Booth buy his gun?  Who saw Booth shoot Lincoln using the pedantic interpretation of that term applied in the JFK assassination?  Who saw Booth carry a gun into Ford's Theatre?  Provide the chain of custody for Booth's pistol (e.g. who discovered it, where was it found etc).  And on and on and on down the rabbit hole.  The obvious equivalency is that it would not be possible to ever prove guilt in any situation if we applied dishonest John's impossible standard of proof to other situations.  The absurdity and hypocrisy of that approach is highlighted by its application to other situations.

btw:  Here is what Dishonest John said about Booth's diary contrary to his most recent lie:

"An entire theater box full of people saw him standing there with a derringer immediately after Lincoln was shot and they knew him.  Rathbone fought with him and was stabbed by Booth.  An entire theater full of people who knew who he was saw him leap from the box shouting "Sic Semper Tyrannus".  He had accomplices who ratted him out.  He had a diary in which he said he did it."