Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy

[John Iacoletti]

Sure I do. It ricocheted and a chip of the sidewalk hit James Tague. He is one reason I know a shot did not go through the windshield. A gunman would have had to be in that area to produce a shot like that. Tague never said he saw anyone down there or hear a shot from there.

Where did the bullet go to?

[John Iacoletti]

First off do you concur with HSCA findings? The HSCA tried to say the open mike was on H. B. McLain's motorcycle, and that he was only 120 ft behind the limo. That is not true. "Richard E. Sprague, an expert on photographic evidence of the assassination and a consultant to the HSCA, noted that the amateur film the HSCA relied on showed that there were no motorcycles between those riding alongside the rear of the presidential limousine and H.B. McLain's motorcycle, and that other films[21][not in citation given] showed McLain's motorcycle was actually 250 feet behind the presidential limousine when the first shot was fired, not 120 to 138 feet. No motorcycle was anywhere near the target area.[22]"

Do you cuncur with the HSCA?
"After the FBI disputed the validity of the acoustic evidence, the Justice Department paid for a review by the National Academy of Sciences, an organization operating with a Title 36 congressional charter.

On May 14, 1982, the panel of experts chaired by Harvard University's Norman Ramsey, released the results of their study.[26] The NAS panel unanimously concluded that:

The acoustic analyses do not demonstrate that there was a grassy knoll shot, and in particular there is no acoustic basis for the claim of 95% probability of such a shot.
The acoustic impulses attributed to gunshots were recorded about one minute after the President had been shot and the motorcade had been instructed to go to the hospital.
Therefore, reliable acoustic data do not support a conclusion that there was a second gunman."[27]

I asked you about your claim that the stuck mic was "found to have been on a police motorcycle parked at the Trade Mart and idling".  What does any of this have to do with my question?

[John Iacoletti]

Nope. It was the first shot that missed. Tague said that he was hit on either the the second or third shot.

As for where the missed shot went, how could anyone be expected to know that? It missed the limo completely.

How do you know there was a first missed shot then?

And if nobody could be expected to know where a hypothesized first missed shot went, then why are people expected to know where a hypothesized frontal shot to the president's throat went?

[Lee Wotton]

I really wouldn't give Wesley any time at all on this post.  He fails to read previous posts properly, never answers simple questions and as Gary rightly says brings nothing to the table.  He has visited Dealey Plaza and hunted with a rifle though! hahahaha.

I think there is plenty of evidence in earlier posts that point to more than 3 shots and more than one shooting location.  Either one of those points spells conspiracy; as does the preposterous magic bullet.

They weren't banking on Tague that day and it was too late once the planted bullet was found at Parkland.

[Tim Nickerson]

How do you know there was a first missed shot then?

From viewing the Zapruder film and from John Connally's testimony.

[John Iacoletti]

From viewing the Zapruder film and from John Connally's testimony.

That would be cherry-picking.  Andrew concludes that there were only two shots using the same methodology.

[Bill Brown]

First off do you concur with HSCA findings? The HSCA tried to say the open mike was on H. B. McLain's motorcycle, and that he was only 120 ft behind the limo. That is not true. "Richard E. Sprague, an expert on photographic evidence of the assassination and a consultant to the HSCA, noted that the amateur film the HSCA relied on showed that there were no motorcycles between those riding alongside the rear of the presidential limousine and H.B. McLain's motorcycle, and that other films[21][not in citation given] showed McLain's motorcycle was actually 250 feet behind the presidential limousine when the first shot was fired, not 120 to 138 feet. No motorcycle was anywhere near the target area.[22]"

Do you cuncur with the HSCA?
"After the FBI disputed the validity of the acoustic evidence, the Justice Department paid for a review by the National Academy of Sciences, an organization operating with a Title 36 congressional charter.

On May 14, 1982, the panel of experts chaired by Harvard University's Norman Ramsey, released the results of their study.[26] The NAS panel unanimously concluded that:

The acoustic analyses do not demonstrate that there was a grassy knoll shot, and in particular there is no acoustic basis for the claim of 95% probability of such a shot.
The acoustic impulses attributed to gunshots were recorded about one minute after the President had been shot and the motorcade had been instructed to go to the hospital.
Therefore, reliable acoustic data do not support a conclusion that there was a second gunman."[27]

You really are not very good at answering simple questions, are you now?

Nothing you have written comes even close to being an answer to John's question.

[Jerry Freeman]

However ... Jesse Curry did not believe there was a conspiracy to kill JFK while he was Chief of Police in Dallas (until 1966). 

How could anyone possibly know what Curry believed?
Reading his testimony before the WC might provide some insight...
 
The Recollections of Jesse Curry
 

Given months to prepare for his testimony, Chief Curry did rather poorly...

 

    Mr. RANKIN....When did you learn of the arrest of Lee Harvey Oswald?
    Mr. CURRY - While I was out at Parkland Hospital.
    Mr. RANKIN - Do you know about what time that was, the day?
    Mr. CURRY - It was on the 22d and the best I recall it was around 1 o'clock or maybe a little after 1 o'clock.
[The report of the Tippit shooting didn't get out until when exactly?? Horrible preparation there..Oswald wasn't even known about until much later after he was arrested @2:00 PM]
    Mr. RANKIN - How did that come to your attention?
    Mr. CURRY - Some of my officers came to me and said they had arrested a suspect. in the shooting of our Officer Tippit.
    Mr. RANKIN - What else did they say?
    Mr. CURRY - They also told me a little later, I believe, that he was a suspect also in the assassination of the President.
    Mr. RANKIN - What did you do then?
    Mr. CURRY - I didn't do anything at the time.

The President had only just been pronounced dead at 1:00

 

    Mr. CURRY - And I returned to the city hall.
    Mr. DULLES - Did I understand correctly, how long were you at Love Field after the plane of the President left?
    Mr. CURRY - As I recall it was approximately an hour.
    Mr. DULLES - That is what I thought.  [why did Dulles say that?]
    Mr. CURRY - We waited there until the casket bearing the President, and then the cars bearing Mrs. Kennedy arrived, and it was, I would judge an hour perhaps.
    Mr. RANKIN - Then what did you do?
    Mr. CURRY - I returned to my office at city hall.
    Mr. RANKIN - Did you do anything about Lee Harvey Oswald at that time?
    Mr. CURRY - No


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    Mr. CURRY - No. As I went into the city hall it was overrun with the news media.
    Mr. RANKIN - What did you do about that?
    Mr. CURRY - I didn't do anything.

    Mr. RANKIN - Did anyone of the police department give them permission [TV news cameras etc] to do this?
    Mr. CURRY - I noticed--well, I don't know who gave them permission because I wasn't there. When I returned they were up there.
    Mr. RANKIN - Did you inquire about whether permission had been given?
    Mr. CURRY - No; I didn't.

   

Mr. RANKIN - Did you have anything to do with the interrogation of Lee Harvey Oswald?
    Mr. CURRY - No, sir; I did not. I was in the office once or twice while he was being interrogated but I never asked him any question myself.
    Mr. RANKIN - Do you know who did?
    Mr. CURRY - Captain Fritz principally interrogated him, I believe.
    Mr. RANKIN - Was that his responsibility?
    Mr. CURRY - Yes; it was. There were several people in the office. It seems to me we were violating every principle of interrogation, the method by which we had to interrogate.
    Mr. RANKIN - Will you explain to the Commission what you mean by that?
    Mr. CURRY - Ordinarily an interrogator in interrogating a suspect will have him in a quiet room alone or perhaps with one person there.
    Mr. RANKIN - Is that your regular practice?
    Mr. CURRY - That is the regular practice.
    Mr. RANKIN - Tell us how this was done?
    Mr. CURRY - This we had representatives from the Secret Service, we had representatives from the FBI, we had representatives from the Ranger Force, and they were--and then one or two detectives from the homicide bureau. This was, well, it was just against all principles of good interrogation practice.
    Mr. RANKIN - By representatives can you tell us how many were from each of these agencies that you describe?
    Mr. CURRY - I can't be sure. I recall I believe two from the FBI, one or two, Inspector Kelley was there from Secret Service, and I believe another one of his men was there. There was one, I recall seeing one man from the Rangers. I don't recall who he was. I just remember now that there was one. Captain Fritz, and one or two of his detectives--this was in a small office.
    Mr. RANKIN - Did you do anything about this when you found out there were so many, did you give any instructions about it?
    Mr. CURRY - No; I didn't.

  So from what can be gathered here is that Chief of Dallas Police Jesse Edward Curry on Nov 22, 1963..just basically stood around and did nothing. He was the only prime official that did not take part in interrogating his own suspect. Didn't even know who was in his own office.. He didn't even order a tape recording so that he could examine an interview with a guy he accused of killing the President of the United States !!! Said he was at Parkland when he "first heard about Oswald " Completely impossible...and utterly unbelievable.