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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #144 on: February 19, 2018, 05:02:46 AM »
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US Code Title 18 is very specific throughout when referring to
"....Officers, Employees, and Elected Officials of the Executive and Legislative branches.." [esp Pres. & VP]

And are not referring to the POTUS in 18 U.S. Code ? 372 - Conspiracy to impede or injure officer
or that Federal jurisdiction supersedes TX State law in the removal of this body in 1963...

That's from a Wikipedia article. I reject it as unreliable.

Here's something that you probably overlooked in the Memorandum for the Attorney General:

Objection to the multifaceted conspiracy bill, of which this provision was a part, centered on its application to conspiracies to overthrow the Government of the United States;

It's important to keep that in mind.

The President is the Chief Executive Officer of the United States as well as the Commander in Chief. Your argument is silly.  However, if we were to assume for the sake of argument that he was not, strictly speaking, an Officer of the United States, the removal of JFK's body from Dallas would still be covered under 18 U.S. Code ? 372. As the Memorandum for the Attorney General noted, the terms "office" and "officer" have broad readings.

The term "officer",appearing in 18 U.S.C. ? 372 includes both permanent and temporary, full- and part-time officers and employees of the United States.


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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
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Offline Lee Wotton

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #145 on: February 19, 2018, 08:58:15 PM »
The POTUS is all three.

Haha and the SS knew it was a conspiracy because they were part of it Tim.  They even had an officer at the DPD why was that then?

What do you say to all the so called errors the SS made that day that they didn't make on preceding days?  And don't say JFK requested he be driven at too low a speed past high buildings with the windows open!!  For example!!

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #146 on: February 19, 2018, 10:12:26 PM »
It's not possible to drive though a city avoiding high buildings with open windows.

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Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #147 on: February 19, 2018, 11:15:19 PM »
Haha and the SS knew it was a conspiracy because they were part of it Tim.  They even had an officer at the DPD why was that then?

They had an officer at the DPD? What does that even mean?

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What do you say to all the so called errors the SS made that day that they didn't make on preceding days?  And don't say JFK requested he be driven at too low a speed past high buildings with the windows open!!  For example!!

What errors did the Secret Service make that day that they didn't make on preceding days?

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #148 on: February 20, 2018, 10:55:41 PM »
His autopsy was not illegal. The Secret Service officers suspected that the assassination was the result of a conspiracy. A conspiracy would have made it a Federal crime. They were justified under Title 18 , Part 1, Chapter 19 of the US Code in removing the body from Dallas.

Please cite any evidence of the Secret Service using this justification at the time.

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #149 on: February 20, 2018, 11:10:10 PM »
Try all you want but you'll never get around the fact that the Feds were legally justified in removing JFK's body under 18 U.S. Code ? 372.

You're blowing smoke.  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't say anything about seizing evidence.  Nor have you shown any evidence that federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction was ever asserted.

Offline Tim Nickerson

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #150 on: February 20, 2018, 11:44:36 PM »
You're blowing smoke.  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't say anything about seizing evidence.  Nor have you shown any evidence that federal investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction was ever asserted.

Conspiracy to assassinate the President was a federal crime under 18 U.S. Code ? 372. That gives the Feds the authority to seize evidence. The Feds asserted their investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction when they removed JFK's body from Dallas.

 

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #151 on: February 21, 2018, 12:02:05 AM »
Conspiracy to assassinate the President was a federal crime under 18 U.S. Code ? 372. That gives the Feds the authority to seize evidence. The Feds asserted their investigative or prosecutive jurisdiction when they removed JFK's body from Dallas.

Talk about a circular argument.

Be specific.  What statute gave the feds the authority to seize evidence from a state investigation?  18 U.S. Code ? 372 doesn't.

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Re: Forget Oswald and Who....The Number of Bullets & Shooters Proves Conspiracy
« Reply #151 on: February 21, 2018, 12:02:05 AM »