Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?

[John Iacoletti]

Dear John,.... Oh, how I hate to write.....But here's that last sentence of Howard Brennan affidavit of 11/22/63 ....Quote...  "I believe that I could identify  this man if I ever saw him again."...unquote

Yeah, well, he couldn’t. Even with an unfair and biased lineup. Even after seeing Oswald’s face trumpeted all over television.

[Walt Cakebread]

Ok first would you follow up this idea by stating where exactly is it that you think Brennan saw the man - the man's specific location.

I believe that Brennan saw the 175 pound man who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing standing behind the the wide open window at the west end of the sixth floor.   Both of the windows in the set of windows at the west end were wide open at the time of the shooting.  I believe the 175 pound man with the hunting rifle ( as described by Arnold Rowland) was standing behind the east window ( right hand)  of the set of windows.

Brennan said that the man was standing up and using the side of the window to steady the rifle as he aimed it out of the window.   I believe that the man used the center dividing mullion between the set of windows as the steady rest.

Arnold Rowland saw the man behind the window at the west end of the sixth floor, but the man was further back in the room and away from the window, when Rowland saw him.

Howard Brennan could not have seen a STANDING man aiming a rifle out of the window behind the so called "Sniper's Nest" window....  because Brennan said the man had the muzzle of the rifle outside of the window....That would not have been possible because the S N window was not open far enough. The horizontal sash at the bottom of the half open window would have prevented a standing  5' 10" man from sicking the muzzle out of the window .....


Brennan's affidavit of 11 / 22 /63   clearly describes a man who was NOT Lee Oswald.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Brennan testified that, for 'bullet protection' (as he put it) he dove to the Houston side because the wall was a little higher.

Additionally, any claim that Brennan was talking about the NW window is straight from the far shores of the lunatic fringe.

any claim that Brennan was talking about the NW window is straight from the far shores of the lunatic fringe.

Yes, yer right Chappie....Only a lunatic would imagine that the motorcade was traveling along the railroad track at the rear of the TSBD .....The NW corner was at the back of the building,     Perhaps you should learn the elementary facts before you post.....

[Walt Cakebread]

Yeah, well, he couldn’t. Even with an unfair and biased lineup. Even after seeing Oswald’s face trumpeted all over television.

The point is my dear Johnny.... Howard Brennan swore that he believed that he"could identify the man if he ever saw him again"   He said that only a couple of hours before he went to view the line up in which Lee Oswald was present.

And you raise an excellent point in pointing out that Brennan saw Lee Oswald on the television prior to going to view the line up.   That occurred only a hour or so after he gave his affidavit in which he swore that he thought that he would be able to identify the 175 pound man if he ever saw him again.

If the man that he had seen aiming the hunting rifle out of a window had been Lee Oswald he would have recognized him ....

Do you believe that Lee Oswald lost about 45 pounds, and changed out of the light colored khaki clothing between 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting, and 5:00 pm the time of the line up??

[John Iacoletti]

Do you believe that Lee Oswald lost about 45 pounds, and changed out of the light colored khaki clothing between 12:30 PM, the time of the shooting, and 5:00 pm the time of the line up??

Obviously not. The bottom line is that despite his later revisionist history, Brennan could not make a positive ID, even in a rigged lineup.

[Walt Cakebread]

Obviously not. The bottom line is that despite his later revisionist history, Brennan could not make a positive ID, even in a rigged lineup.

Of course Brennan couldn't make a positive ID.....  Because the 175 pound man was not there.....

[Bill Chapman]

any claim that Brennan was talking about the NW window is straight from the far shores of the lunatic fringe.

Yes, yer right Chappie....Only a lunatic would imagine that the motorcade was traveling along the railroad track at the rear of the TSBD .....The NW corner was at the back of the building,     Perhaps you should learn the elementary facts before you post.....

SW corner.
There, fixed it.

But you're still a lunatic.
Can't fix that.

And Rowland, first time around, said the guy was something like 12-15 feet back of the window
Then downsized that to about 3-5 ft when he realized that no one would be able to see him at the earlier distance.

Not that Arnie was embellishing at all... even though his own wife practically called him, for all intents & purposes, a bullspombleprofglidnoctobuns artist.

[Walt Cakebread]

Obviously not. The bottom line is that despite his later revisionist history, Brennan could not make a positive ID, even in a rigged lineup.

No....The bottom line is;....Howard Brennan described the man who was aiming the hunting rifle out of a window, and his description was not of Lee Oswald.