Did Jack Dougherty know how to count?

[Thomas Graves]

Don't you have a theory that Oswald changed his shirt and pants at the rooming house? Maybe Brennan noticed the clothing change, or maybe Oswald had the same shirt on as he had on earlier and it just appeared different under artificial light.


Not a theory , Mr. O..... Captain Fritz wrote that Lee Oswald went to his room and changed his clothes before going to the theater.

Lee's dirty clothes were found in his room...but those dirty clothes were NOT light colored khaki......The were no light colored khaki clothes found in Lee's room.

Maybe Brennan noticed the clothing change, or maybe Oswald had the same shirt on as he had on earlier and it just appeared different under artificial light.


No, Lee didn't have the same shirt on.....  The detective ( Potts) who listed the items of clothing found in Lee's room. ... Potts described the shirt as a long sleeved sport shirt, reddish brown in color with a BUTTON DOWN COLLAR...     Was the shirt that Lee was wearing at the theater REDDISH BROWN?  Did it have a BUTTON DOWN COLOR?   ( see Potts exhibit)   And the trousers were dark grey..... 

Brennan said that the 175 pound man's trousers were a LIGHTER color than the man's "dingy white shirt"    Lee's trousers were a DARK grey......

Walter

Even eyewitnesses and police officers make mistakes from time-to-time.

--  MWT 

PS  175 pounds?

I thought it was "165 to 175 pounds".

[Walt Cakebread]

Walter

Even eyewitnesses and police officers make mistakes from time-to-time.

--  MWT 

PS  175 pounds?

I thought it was "165 to 175 pounds".

police officers make mistakes from time-to-time.

Yes, indeed  they do...and they made some very big mistakes in the framing of their patsy,  ......The major mistake was:....They never knew that Lee was an undercover agent for Bobby K.   

I thought it was "165 to 175 pounds".

Yes, that is what Brennan wrote in his affidavit....  And I'm sure that you'll agree that Brennan's statement means that the man who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing and who he saw STANDING and aiming a hunting rifle out of a upper floor window could have weighed as much as 175 pounds.

And I don't doubt that you'll be able to see that Lee Oswald's weight ( 131 lbs) couldn't possibly have been estimated  as much as 175 pounds......   And I'm sure you'll also agree that Lee's DARK colored clothing couldn't possibly have been seen as "light colored khaki", which is what Brennan said the 175 pound man was wearing.

[Thomas Graves]

police officers make mistakes from time-to-time.

Yes, indeed  they do...and they made some very big mistakes in the framing of their patsy,  ......The major mistake was:....They never knew that Lee was an undercover agent for Bobby K.   

I thought it was "165 to 175 pounds".

Yes, that is what Brennan wrote in his affidavit....  And I'm sure that you'll agree that Brennan's statement means that the man who was dressed in light colored khaki clothing and who he saw STANDING and aiming a hunting rifle out of a upper floor window could have weighed as much as 175 pounds.

And I don't doubt that you'll be able to see that Lee Oswald's weight ( 131 lbs) couldn't possibly have been as much as 175 pounds......   And I'm sure you'll also agree that Lee's DARK colored clothing couldn't possibly have been seen as "light colored khaki", which is what Brennan said the 175 pound man was wearing.

"Walt",

It's telling that you seemed to think you needed to use the 175 figure instead of the more accurate "165 to 175" to make your point.

--  MWT 

[Bill Chapman]

"Walt",

It's telling that you seemed to think you needed to use the 175 figure instead of the more accurate "165 to 175" to make your point.

--  MWT 

At CT Exaggeration-Embellishment Central, the most convenient measure is chosen.

[Walt Cakebread]

"Walt",

It's telling that you seemed to think you needed to use the 175 figure instead of the more accurate "165 to 175" to make your point.

--  MWT 

You're FOS Tommy.....  Anyway you slice it, the skinny  Lee Oswald at 131 pounds couldn't have been seen as weighing  between "165 and 175 pounds"

The DPD had Brennan's affidavit and they certainly knew that Brennan's description of the gunman DID NOT fit Lee Oswald.

The fact that you are trying to use the lower weight is ridiculous..... The difference between Lee's weight of 131 pounds and 168 pounds is nearly 40 pounds ( 37 pounds) .....   That is a huge difference on the frame of a 5' 9" man.....   Your desperation is obvious, Tommy.....

[Thomas Graves]

You're FOS Tommy.....  Anyway you slice it, the skinny  Lee Oswald at 131 pounds couldn't have been seen as weighing  between "165 and 175 pounds"

The DPD had Brennan's affidavit and they certainly knew that Brennan's description of the gunman DID NOT fit Lee Oswald.

The fact that you are trying to use the lower weight is ridiculous..... The difference between Lee's weight of 131 pounds and 168 pounds is nearly 40 pounds ( 37 pounds) .....   That is a huge difference on the frame of a 5' 9" man.....   Your desperation is obvious, Tommy.....

"Walt",

(Oswald was 5' 9.5")

It's telling that you accuse me of wanting to use the 165 figure, when all I was doing was pointing out your palpable bias-ness.

LOL

--  MWT 

[Steve M. Galbraith]

From Oswald's autopsy report: "External examination reveals a 5 foot, 9 inch white male, the estimated weight is 150 pounds..."

Link:  https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340153/m1/1/

[Walt Cakebread]

From Oswald's autopsy report: "External examination reveals a 5 foot, 9 inch white male, the estimated weight is 150 pounds..."

Link:  https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth340153/m1/1/

Oh Kool.... The "ESTIMATED " weight was 150.....  When the weighed Lee at the time he was booked....  He weighed 131 pounds.....