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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2020, 12:14:50 PM »
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Of course but he was miserable in Dallas and he had tried to kill Walker. Marina wanted him out of that city.

I really don't understand how people believe he was sent to New Orelans by the FBI, CIA or whoever as a pre assassination setup. 
I don't believe anyone has ever said that.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #65 on: January 13, 2020, 03:58:48 PM »
You have gone beyond fiction here to science fiction.  But try to focus.  You allege that the plan was to link Oswald to the Walker attempt in order for him to gain entry to Cuba as a spy.   Or something along those lines.  But no evidence is left at the crime scene for the authorities to link Oswald to the crime - the entire purpose of this alleged hoax.  Why wouldn't they leave something or somehow put the authorities onto Oswald as a suspect if that was the entire purpose of this plot?  It wouldn't be very difficult.  CTers certainly believe they organized an elaborate frame up of Oswald to link him to the JFK assassination but here there not so much.  And when the trail grows cold they do nothing.   Do you see the obvious fallacy in suggesting that the entire purpose of the Walker attempt was to link it to Oswald but then planting no evidence to do so?

no evidence is left at the crime scene for the authorities to link Oswald to the crime

Obviously you're ignorant of the FACT that Lee left the very unusual rifle near Walker's in hope that the police dogs would find it and trace the easily traceable rifle to his PO box.   

Lee left the cheap old Carcano under some brush with the idea that the police would find it .....  Your ignorance of the facts is exposed once again.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #66 on: January 13, 2020, 04:04:53 PM »
Marina said a lot of things that were inaccurate or inconsistent. Like the Nixon thing.

That was not “ in his possession”, it was in the Paine’s garage. How do you know that was his?

You mean the unsigned, undated note in Russian that doesn’t mention Walker or shooting?

This is just empty rhetoric. Just because you want the note to be about shooting Walker doesn’t make it so.

That was not “ in his possession”, it was in the Paine’s garage. How do you know that was his?

The photo of Walker's house was photographed among Lee's possessions at the Dallas police station on the evening of 11/22/63 .   It's highly unlikely the  photo was planted, because the police didn't even realize the significance of the photo..... It was simply the picture of a house with a car in the drive...


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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #67 on: January 13, 2020, 04:54:39 PM »
no evidence is left at the crime scene for the authorities to link Oswald to the crime

Obviously you're ignorant of the FACT that Lee left the very unusual rifle near Walker's in hope that the police dogs would find it and trace the easily traceable rifle to his PO box.   

Lee left the cheap old Carcano under some brush with the idea that the police would find it .....  Your ignorance of the facts is exposed once again.

That’s not a “fact”, it’s a Walt fabrication.

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #68 on: January 13, 2020, 04:56:11 PM »
That was not “ in his possession”, it was in the Paine’s garage. How do you know that was his?

The photo of Walker's house was photographed among Lee's possessions at the Dallas police station on the evening of 11/22/63 .   It's highly unlikely the  photo was planted, because the police didn't even realize the significance of the photo..... It was simply the picture of a house with a car in the drive...

Just because some items were recovered from the Paine garage and could be incriminating doesn’t automatically mean they belonged to Oswald.

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #69 on: January 13, 2020, 06:00:08 PM »
Of course but he was miserable in Dallas and he had tried to kill Walker. Marina wanted him out of that city.

I really don't understand how people believe he was sent to New Orelans by the FBI, CIA or whoever as a pre assassination setup. Who would be happy with him down there? Getting arrested, on radio, on TV, "agitating" etc. Makes no sense at all.

as a pre assassination setup.

Lee wasn't sent as a pre-assassination set up.....    The coup d ' etate wasn't being seriously plotted in May of 1963.     

Lee went to New Orleans to see if he could learn who was supplying the Cuban "Freedom Fighters" with the money, boats and guns to attack Cuba from bases in La.
It didn't take Lee long to learn that "EX" FBI agent Guy Bannister ( actually one of Hoover's EXTRA Special agents ) was the man running the illegal raids on Cuba.

JFK was mad as hell because those idiots who were attacking Cuba and the Russian ships in Cuba were creating a nightmare in his efforts to defuse the nuclear threat from the missiles in Cuba.    Lee had been successful in his mission to Russia, and was being utilized again  in an effort to curtail the illegal training and arming of
Cuban refugees.   

In July JFK ordered the ATF to raid the training camps and arrest everybody at the camps.....   Then just before the raid JFK called Hoover and told him about the raid and ordered Hoover to send FBI agents in support of the ATF.  Naturally this infuriated J. Edgar Hoover, because he was supporting the training of the Cubans, and he didn't want to be forced into supporting the ATF.  The raid netted several CIA operatives and many Cubans plus guns, and bomb making materials.

It didn't take Hoover long, to figger out that Lee was the snitch who had provided the info that allowed JFK to raid the illegal training camp.

That was the trip point in setting the murder of JFK into action.... Hoover thought it was great that he could set the little commie snitch (LHO) up as JFK's assassin....

Offline Thomas Graves

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« Reply #70 on: January 13, 2020, 06:00:37 PM »
What was the reason that Lee hastily departed Dallas for New Orleans ?   Do you believe he couldn't have found an unskilled labor job in Dallas ?

Who told him to go to New Orleans and for what reason?

Evil, evil, evil James Angleton, through GPH or ... ? ? ?

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Re: Oswald in New Orleans
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2020, 02:03:12 PM »
no evidence is left at the crime scene for the authorities to link Oswald to the crime

Obviously you're ignorant of the FACT that Lee left the very unusual rifle near Walker's in hope that the police dogs would find it and trace the easily traceable rifle to his PO box.   

Lee left the cheap old Carcano under some brush with the idea that the police would find it .....  Your ignorance of the facts is exposed once again.

How do you know where he left it?  Wherever that was it apparently wasn't too obvious since the police never found it.  And you think the conspirators would just give up at that point instead of providing the DPD with a tip like "there is this nutty commie you might want to check out"?  Instead they just give up.  That was quite a plan.  Lucky for them that it didn't work or your hero Oswald would have been in Cuba in this fantasy scenario and not available to frame for the JFK assassination.

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« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2020, 02:03:12 PM »