Is the revolver a S&W?

[Joffrey van de Wiel]

Did the holster come with the gun or did Oswald acquire it separately? Strange that although (supposedly) ordered months apart, the rifle and the revolver were shipped on the exact same date.

[Walt Cakebread]

Looks like a 4" holster....





Not really, but arguable. Above is a holster that fits a 4" barrel S&W Victory .38. In the evidence photo, compare the width of the sun glasses to the length of the holster at the area that covers the barrel. Keep in mind the holster has a significant height (above the floor tiles) and only measure the outside surface of the holster. The dimensions of that part of the Beckley holster and the sunglasses width are relatively close. My glasses measure a little over 5" in width. Therefore the Beckley holster should measure about the same. The best I can tell the holster (replica of one that was made for the 4" S&W Victory revolver measures a little over 6.5" at the part that covers the barrel.


Smith & Wesson Victory Specs
Caliber: .38 Special
Barrel: 4 inches
OA Length: 8.98 inches
Weight: 34 ounces (empty)
Grips: Walnut
Sights: Front blade, notch rear
Action: DA/SA
Finish: Parkerized
Capacity: 6


Why show a picture above of a 4 inch barrel if the pistol in question was a 2 inch snub nose?

The question by Walt was regarding the appearance of the handle. I was showing the difference in the handles of the Victory model versus the police model from the available photos in a book. Barrel lengths of the Victory models made for the British were 4", 5", and 6". Oswald's was originally a 5" (which was modified to a 2").

The question by Walt was regarding the appearance of the handle. I was showing the difference in the handles of the Victory model versus the police model



Yes that's right, and thank you for posting the photos....   Notice that the SW has a "hump" at the rear of the hammer....  This "hump was designed to keep the revolver from rotating backward in the shooters hand ( ie; give the shooter a good grip on the gun)   The revolver on Lee's hip in CE 133A does not seem to have that "hump"

Jerry posted a picture of a western style "six shooter"..... Notice the six shooter does not have the "hump" like a S&W..


  https://www.giljesus.com/proof-the-dallas-police-falsified-evidence-against-oswald.html

[Charles Collins]

The question by Walt was regarding the appearance of the handle. I was showing the difference in the handles of the Victory model versus the police model



Yes that's right, and thank you for posting the photos....   Notice that the SW has a "hump" at the rear of the hammer....  This "hump was designed to keep the revolver from rotating backward in the shooters hand ( ie; give the shooter a good grip on the gun)   The revolver on Lee's hip in CE 133A does not seem to have that "hump"

Jerry posted a picture of a western style "six shooter"..... Notice the six shooter does not have the "hump" like a S&W..



 https://www.giljesus.com/proof-the-dallas-police-falsified-evidence-against-oswald.html

Walt, in the photo below, is the yellow arrow pointing to the "hump" you keep harping about?




If your answer is yes, then my interpretation of the hump on the pistol in CE 133A is shown in the cropped portion of it (below):


 

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, in the photo below, is the yellow arrow pointing to the "hump" you keep harping about?




If your answer is yes, then my interpretation of the hump on the pistol in CE 133A is shown in the cropped portion of it (below):



Thank you.... For offering your opinion.   I'm not sure that I agree...let's see if others will look at the revolver and offer their opinion.

[Charles Collins]

Thank you.... For offering your opinion.   I'm not sure that I agree...let's see if others will look at the revolver and offer their opinion.

You’re welcome. If we all thought the same things, we wouldn’t have much to discuss...

[Jerry Freeman]

Best a kook could manage

 

 

If the police confiscated holster is in the archives...then someone should have been able to observe and photograph it up close after all these years.

[Jerry Freeman]

They see conspiracy everywhere.

OK don't blow out an artery there. Just make sure you look under the bed tonight
I found it...but your picture is better.
So...Supposedly, Oswald used that [really, really, really worn] holster that one time for these BY pictures and then hung on to it as a kind of keepsake?
Or perhaps he took this pistol and a bus out of town and played Mr Quick Draw Ozzie out in the country with it?
Of course, this blueish ribbon panel didn't ever have to answer these questions.

Mr. RANKIN. Did you ever see him make up a bag or sack or anything like that, to hold a rifle?
Mrs. OSWALD. No.
(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 142, for identification.)
Mr. THORNE. Exhibit 143 is a pistol.
Mrs. OSWALD. Lee Oswald's.
Mr. RANKIN. You recognize that as a pistol of your husband?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. RANKIN. I offer in evidence Exhibit 143.
The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted.
(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 143, and received in evidence.)
Mr. THORNE. Exhibit 144 is a leather pistol holster.
Mrs. OSWALD. That is a holster for Lee's pistol.
Mr. RANKIN. Is Exhibit 144 the same holster that is in those pictures that you took?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. RANKIN. And the pistol is the same pistol as in those pictures?
Mrs. OSWALD. As much as I can tell.
Mr. RANKIN. At least they appear to be, as far as you can tell?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
Mr. RANKIN. And the rifle is the same, or appears to be, is it not?
Mrs. OSWALD. Yes.
The CHAIRMAN. It may be admitted.
(The article referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 144, and received in evidence.)

Unfortunately...there was no "Blue Ribbon" cross-examination available.

[Walt Cakebread]

The wear on the holster indicates to me that Oswald was willing to buy worn but usable gun-related items, probably from local gun shops or surplus stores. Might have bought loose revolver bullets with worn-off wash from a cardboard barrel with a label "Slight marks, reduced price." The Backyard Photos shows a rope sling on the rifle; that's a sign of cheapness. The rifle was found with a sling cleverly improvised from a shoulder-harness strap for a USAF holster, possibly from a surplus store. Maybe the USAF holster and sling was originally meant for the S&W.

They weren't charged with answering absurd dead-end questions asked only to sow innuendo. If they had, critics would have attacked them for speculating. The Commission wasn't a playground for kooks and loons; that would be today's US Senate.

Mr. FREEMAN.  Now, Mrs. Oswald, I'm going to hide CE 144 from you. Would you cover your eyes, please? Thank you. Now, can you describe any distinguishing marks on the holster?
Mrs. OSWALD.  No, I don't recall. I saw it a few times and from a distance.
Mr. FREEMAN.  So you can't positively identify the holster?
Mrs. OSWALD.  Well, it was found in his room ...
Mr. FREEMAN.  (interrupting) ... Now, Mrs. Oswald, can you explain why the picture of the holster in the exhibit is so fuzzy and faint?
Mrs. OSWALD.  No.
Mr. FREEMAN. Was it done to reflect your memory of the holster's appearance?

Blue Ribbon Commission - 56 Years On and Findings Still Valid

The Backyard Photos shows a rope sling on the rifle;



Really???  Do you really believe that there is a "rope sling" ON THE RIFLE, Mr O???

Please enlighten me.....Where was that "rope sling" attached?   What was it's purpose ??