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Offline Gary Craig

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Russell was talking to his Boss, so of course after Russell admitted he had an extremely poor attendance record he was going to say he read the record!

Which goes to show that LNers revert to the "he was lying" argument just as much as CTers.

Offline John Mytton

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IMO...The first BOOM that was heard was a firecracker...it was a signal to he killers to open fire.....because the signaler with the firecracker had received the thumbs up from the man who would have the power to could cover it all up..... once That SOB Kennedy was dead.




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The first BOOM that was heard was a firecracker...it was a signal to he killers to open fire....

Huh?, didn't you say that Umbrella Man was supposed to be the signal?



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Offline Joe Elliott

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I agree with your post.

Oswald most likely was aiming at the head the whole time. He was trying to kill, not wound. At more than 200 yards, with the entire torso visible as well as the head, I can see him electing a center torso shot. But not for shots under 100 yards.

In addition, with the angular speeds of about:


1st shot:   z153   3.70 degrees per second     miss by 60+ inches
2nd shot:   z222   1.80 degrees per second     miss by  8  inches
3rd shot:   z312   0.55 degrees per second     miss by  2  inches


It makes sense Oswald would get more accurate with each shot. The shots were all under 100 yards and with the angular speed of the target continuously dropping as the limousine got further down Elm Street, we should expect the shots to get more accurate.

All and all, I think this match one what one might expect of a shooter who was:

** several years past his Marine training (I would guess not such a big deal for
     shots under 100 yards shots)

** Not real familiar with his rifle (a possible problem, but he did get in 15, 35, 55, etc. practice shots)

** Several months away from practicing shots with that rifle

** Not trained at hitting moving targets, so perhaps not aware he should wait until the
     limousine is further down the street before trying the first shot.

But on the other hand:

** Received Marine training, using iron sights, at targets 200, 300 and 500 yards away.


I find the shooting by Oswald pretty plausible.



Certainly, I would expect a conspiracy to employ shooters who would hit with the first shot. Miss with other shots if they liked, just to make it look like Oswald. But don?t miss with the first and risk Kennedy ducking down or Jackie pulling him down.





The last sentence in the final paragraph is logical.



Thanks. I?ll try working on the rest of the post.

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Considering that the head shot was the last shot leads to only one logical conclusion, that whoever was shooting had finally accomplished his mission.
Well there you have it ..."whoever"-- Got their signal from TUM...Here he comes-get ready to fire.



People running up the knoll after that shot....




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Offline Zeon Mason

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Harold Norman, the closest ear witness right underneath the SE 6th floor SN, heard the 3 shots fired in approximately 4 seconds or less if you measure his several recorded video interviews.

also Norman stated he heard the 1st shot fired, saw JFK "slump' and only AFTER that, did Norman hear 2 more shots fired. So that 1st shot that Nnorman heard, must be 223, because any earlier, JFK has NOT slumped yet.

so 3 shots in 4.8 seconds, of which the SECOND shot must have missed around Z frame 290, followed in about 1 sec by Z 313 head shot.

This rules out a MC rifle firing all 3 shots. Its possible to have fired 2 shots spread apart by 3 seconds but surely improbable to have fired a 3rd shot 1 second after the missed 2nd shot.

This compares well also with James Tague, who thought it was the 2nd or 3rd shot that struck the curb near his position at the tunnel of the Triple overpass, or a fragment of such shot, that may have caused a superficial cut wound on his face.

Lee Bowers, the tower operator behind the stockade GK fence, who saw something like a flash of light that caught his eye, replicated his memory of the shots as spaced also within 3 or 4 seconds just like Harold Norman. Bowers raps his hand on the desk in about 1 sec spacing between 2nd and 3rd shot.
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Offline Zeon Mason

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one other thing about Harold Normans ear witnessing is that from about 12:25 until time of first shot fired about 12:30, Norman heard NO NOISE above him, such as any boxes being pushed or a box being placed on the windowledge, or any movement of the shooter above him, including most significantly NO WORKING OF THE BOLT in preparation. So this SE window 6th floor shooter did not get any advantage like the CBS trial shooters had, to be able to prep work the bolt of the rifle to loosen it up, right up to a few seconds before beginning to fire.

Offline John Iacoletti

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one other thing about Harold Normans ear witnessing is that from about 12:25 until time of first shot fired about 12:30, Norman heard NO NOISE above him, such as any boxes being pushed or a box being placed on the windowledge, or any movement of the shooter above him, including most significantly NO WORKING OF THE BOLT in preparation.

But Norman didn't go "click-click-boom-click-click-boom-click-click-boom-click-click".

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