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Offline Thomas Graves

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #96 on: March 01, 2020, 06:53:52 AM »
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Why?

 Seems more on top of the subject than that other guy who wrote nothing about his study of the assassination because he doubtfully did any :-\
 

 Everybody has an opinion and quite often sits on that opinion in the restroom.

Iirc, Kurtz writes about a "massive hole near the front of JFK's head that could only have been caused by a shot from the Grassy Knoll."

Really?

LOL

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PS  Ahhh, here we are ... from his 1982 book Crime of the Century

"The huge, gaping hole in the right front of President Kennedy's head was almost certainly caused by an exploding bullet fired from the knoll. The rapid backward and leftward movement of Kennedy's head, as well as the backward and left-ward spray of brain tissue, skull bone, and blood are very strong indicators of a shot from the right front. "

In which he overlooks the possibility that the hole was caused by an exiting bullet, that JFK lurched backwards because every neuron in his brain fired off, causing the muscles in his legs to contract and his spine to bend violently and throw him backwards, and not realizing that a fine mist of blood, bone and cerebral matter can be seen shooting forward over JFK's head in the Nix film (when digitally enhanced and played in slow motion).

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Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #97 on: March 01, 2020, 02:34:27 PM »
In which he overlooks the possibility that the hole was caused by an exiting bullet, that JFK lurched backwards because every neuron in his brain fired off, causing the muscles in his legs to contract and his spine to bend violently and throw him backwards, and not realizing that a fine mist of blood, bone and cerebral matter can be seen shooting forward over JFK's head in the Nix film (when digitally enhanced and played in slow motion).
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he overlooks the possibility that the hole was caused by an exiting bullet
So..there was a possibility that it was an exiting bullet but does this not include the same possibility that it was an entry bullet?
There were histoical conspiracies to execute a political, military or cultural leader ---
Julius Ceaser....Jesus Christ...Adolf Hitler...Abraham Lincoln
There have been conspiracies to revolt against the power of rulers.
There was a 9/11 conspiracy initiated by zealots who believed there was/is a world wide conspiracy against them.....Conspiracy nuts :-\

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #98 on: March 01, 2020, 03:55:55 PM »
JFK lurched backwards because every neuron in his brain fired off, causing the muscles in his legs to contract and his spine to bend violently and throw him backwards,

LOL. You really believe that “neuromuscular reaction” crap?

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #99 on: March 01, 2020, 05:49:26 PM »
LOL. You really believe that “neuromuscular reaction” crap?

Some folks will believe ANYTHING.....    Maybe they believe that JFK was electrocuted.

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #100 on: March 01, 2020, 05:58:13 PM »
So..there was a possibility that it was an exiting bullet but does this not include the same possibility that it was an entry bullet?
There were histoical conspiracies to execute a political, military or cultural leader ---
Julius Ceaser....Jesus Christ...Adolf Hitler...Abraham Lincoln
There have been conspiracies to revolt against the power of rulers.
There was a 9/11 conspiracy initiated by zealots who believed there was/is a world wide conspiracy against them.....Conspiracy nuts :-\

Jerr-wee, Jerr-wee, Jerr-wee,

<sigh>

I'm sure that evil, evil, evil Alan Dulles and evil, evil, evil James Angleton and evil, evil, evil [fill in the blank] hated JFK so doggone much that they were willing to risk being fried to death in "Old Sparky".

NOT!

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Offline Mike Orr

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« Reply #101 on: March 02, 2020, 05:52:00 PM »
Is this the same Historian who told Mr. ' Reclaiming History ' Vince Bugliosi , that his 1600 page plus , fiction , was the whole truth and nothing but the truth , so help me ..........? Vince tried to make it 26 volumes , BUT .......

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #102 on: March 02, 2020, 07:23:59 PM »
One of the great frustrations about this case is the SLOW SLOW pace at which un-contestable facts seep in.

Here's an un-contestable fact from 2014. Michael Kurtz is not to be relied upon. He repeatedly changed stories about his own connection to the case, and ultimately cited a bunch of interviews with people who were dead at the time. This is demonstrated here:
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter-19c-lost-in-the-jungle-with-kurtz

And here's one from 2009. Vincent Bugliosi wasn't much better. He spent a large chunk of his book claiming he wouldn't deceive his audience, and would root his book in the historical record, and then presented a narrative grossly at odds with the statements of the witnesses cited in his footnotes. This is demonstrated here:
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter9b%3Areclaiminghistoryfromreclaimin2

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #103 on: March 02, 2020, 07:54:05 PM »
One of the great frustrations about this case is the SLOW SLOW pace at which un-contestable facts seep in.

Here's an un-contestable fact from 2014. Michael Kurtz is not to be relied upon. He repeatedly changed stories about his own connection to the case, and ultimately cited a bunch of interviews with people who were dead at the time. This is demonstrated here:
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter-19c-lost-in-the-jungle-with-kurtz

And here's one from 2009. Vincent Bugliosi wasn't much better. He spent a large chunk of his book claiming he wouldn't deceive his audience, and would root his book in the historical record, and then presented a narrative grossly at odds with the statements of the witnesses cited in his footnotes. This is demonstrated here:
http://www.patspeer.com/chapter9b%3Areclaiminghistoryfromreclaimin2


Bugliosi's " Book for the ages"....has become the joke of the ages.

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Re: Historian explains the mind of Conspiracy Nuts - CBS 1967
« Reply #103 on: March 02, 2020, 07:54:05 PM »