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Online Charles Collins

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« Reply #80 on: March 11, 2020, 12:02:38 AM »
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John, It's not simply a matter of Misspelling.....   Marina's  last name name never was  anything like Nichilaveva.    Her name was Marina Prusokova

Did her last name change to Oswald when they got married? If so, then maybe LHO thought putting Oswald for her last name would have been redundant. Therefore he simply included her middle name.

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« Reply #82 on: March 11, 2020, 03:15:20 PM »

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh16/html/WH_Vol16_0029b.htm

Duh !....    Everybody knows that the letter was addressed to the Russian Embassy.    And it's common knowledge that the FBI was reading all of the mail addressed to the Russian Embassy.    So it wasn't just the Russians who received information......

When Lee was in Minsk he often sent letters ( sometimes picture post cards) to his mother, that contained photos of places in Russia.  Those photos revealed places that were of interest to US intel.  Lee knew that his letters would be read by the Russians before they left the USSR and by US intel when they arrived in the US.
 So Lee knew how to send seemingly innocuous information  in a letter to his mother. 

Now then,... let's display a bit of alert intelligence shall we Charlie?     

Did Lee inform the reader that " Nichilayevea " was living in Dallas??
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« Reply #83 on: March 11, 2020, 04:15:34 PM »
Duh !....    Everybody knows that the letter was addressed to the Russian Embassy.    And it's common knowledge that the FBI was reading all of the mail addressed to the Russian Embassy.    So it wasn't just the Russians who received information......

When Lee was in Minsk he often sent letters ( sometimes picture post cards) to his mother, that contained photos of places in Russia.  Those photos revealed places that were of interest to US intel.  Lee knew that his letters would be read by the Russians before they left the USSR and by US intel when they arrived in the US.
 So Lee knew how to send seemingly innocuous information  in a letter to his mother. 

Now then,... let's display a bit of alert intelligence shall we Charlie?     

Did Lee inform the reader that " Nichilayevea " was living in Dallas??


When Lee was in Minsk he often sent letters ( sometimes picture post cards) to his mother, that contained photos of places in Russia.  Those photos revealed places that were of interest to US intel.  Lee knew that his letters would be read by the Russians before they left the USSR and by US intel when they arrived in the US.
 So Lee knew how to send seemingly innocuous information  in a letter to his mother.


So how did LHO know that the photos would have been allowed to go to “sweet Marguerite” aka mommy dearest; especially if they were of interest to US intelligence?

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« Reply #84 on: March 11, 2020, 04:31:58 PM »

When Lee was in Minsk he often sent letters ( sometimes picture post cards) to his mother, that contained photos of places in Russia.  Those photos revealed places that were of interest to US intel.  Lee knew that his letters would be read by the Russians before they left the USSR and by US intel when they arrived in the US.
 So Lee knew how to send seemingly innocuous information  in a letter to his mother.


So how did LHO know that the photos would have been allowed to go to “sweet Marguerite” aka mommy dearest; especially if they were of interest to US intelligence?

It was a gamble....  But if the picture on a post card showed a view of Minsk that included the Russian Foreign Language school ....perhaps the US could use that information....  So he'd send the innocuous post card....  If it was useful to US intel.... that was fine, but if they didn't need the info, that was also OK.


But you haven't answered the question;....Did Lee inform the reader that " Nichilayevea " was living in Dallas??
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« Reply #85 on: March 11, 2020, 07:39:30 PM »
It was a gamble....  But if the picture on a post card showed a view of Minsk that included the Russian Foreign Language school ....perhaps the US could use that information....  So he'd send the innocuous post card....  If it was useful to US intel.... that was fine, but if they didn't need the info, that was also OK.


But you haven't answered the question;....Did Lee inform the reader that " Nichilayevea " was living in Dallas??

I believe that I found the name LHO was apparently trying to spell, and a reason that he used that name. Here is a link to a letter (translated to English) to Marina from the USSR Embassy in Washington DC dated June 4, 1963 regarding her request for an entrance visa (Notice the name that they used for Marina):


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=532&search=letter_to%20soviet%20embassy


I appears reasonable to me that LHO would use that same name when writing back to them about her visa...

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« Reply #86 on: March 11, 2020, 08:12:32 PM »
I believe that I found the name LHO was apparently trying to spell, and a reason that he used that name. Here is a link to a letter (translated to English) to Marina from the USSR Embassy in Washington DC dated June 4, 1963 regarding her request for an entrance visa (Notice the name that they used for Marina):


https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1135&relPageId=532&search=letter_to%20soviet%20embassy


I appears reasonable to me that LHO would use that same name when writing back to them about her visa...

So you think that Nicolaevna is the same as Nichilayevea  ??      Do you believe that Collins is the same as Coolims   ??

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« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2020, 08:22:46 PM »
So you think that Nicolaevna is the same as Nichilayevea  ??      Do you believe that Collins is the same as Coolims   ??


LHO frequently misspelled words. Some have said that his dyslexia contributed to that. I think that his lack of attendance and lack of paying attention in school did also.

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« Reply #87 on: March 11, 2020, 08:22:46 PM »