Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.

[Martin Weidmann]

The bag was made from TSBD materials and the tape used made it impossible for the bag to be made elsewhere. 

Roy Truly gave the FBI a sample of the paper from the book wrapping table in the 1st floor shipping department and the FBI lab examined it and compared it to the paper of the bag that was allegedly found in what was imagined to be a "Sniper's Nest"......

A report written by FBI agent Vince Drain on 11/29/63 states..... Quote: " The paper was examined by the FBI laboratory and found not to be identical with the paper gun case that was found at the scene of the shooting".....Unquote

Walt,

You know better than this. There are two reports by Drain in the National Archives. They are the same except for one saying there was a match and the other saying there wasn't a match. When asked about this, Drain said he only wrote one report and not two. It is a matter of speculation which of the two reports Drain actually wrote.

A far more interesting question, at least to me, would be; who wrote the other report (in Drain's name) and why?

The LN position is that Drain actually did write two memos and then left without knowing the results of the tests. The report reflecting the outcome of the test was the one to be used. I don't consider it a very credible explanation.

[Walt Cakebread]

And while we wait, anyone want to suggest when Day had the opportunity to notice the wrapping bench and paper prior to the discovery of the bag he took to the table on the first floor?

Excellent rhetorical question, Colin.....when did detective Day have the opportunity to notice the wrapping bench and paper

We can be certain that Day didn't compare any bag to the paper and tape at the shipping department wrapping table BEFORE he took the carcano to the DPD crime lab.  Day departed the TSBD with the Carcano at about 2:15 pm and returned to the TSBD about an hour later.     And we have seen many photos of Detective Montgomery carrying a paper bag out of the TSBD at about 2:20 pm....   

So the paper bag was not available at the TSBD when Detective JC Day returned to the scene.  Which brings us to the question..... IF Detective Day compared a bag and tape on the bag with the paper and tape at the shipping table ......  Where did this bag come from??

[Colin Crow]

Day understood the significance of the bench and first-floor paper/tape before the bag was discovered?

When did he notice it Jerry? On the way inside going up to the sixth floor?

[Colin Crow]

What's wrong with about 1:50 to 2:10?

So he had noticed the wrapping table prior to the bags discovery. Realised the similarity of materials and decided to take the bag down just to make sure?

You have the rifle, bag, Day and Studebaker all on the first floor before Day leaves the building with the rifle. When did Day first notice the wrapping table? He then gets Studebaker to collect the samples of paper and tape. The bag goes back upstairs. Day claimed he left it for Hicks and Studebaker to bring with them later. We know that is wrong. Montgomery brought it in at 3 pm. Signed in at 3.20pm.

[Walt Cakebread]

What's wrong with about 1:50 to 2:10?

We know that the rifle was discovered well hidden beneath a pallet that had boxes of books stacked on the pallet at about 1:22 pm.....  But the rifle was not removed from that hiding place until about 1:45 ( the scene was photographed and measured prior to touching the rifle)   Then Detective Day, and Captain Fritz, verified that the rifle was safe to handle before Day started dusting it for finger prints.  After checking the rifle for prints and lifting some prints from the rifle Day took the rifle and departed the TSBD .....HE DID NOT HAVE A PAPER BAG WITH HIM AT THAT TIME.

[Colin Crow]

The bag was discovered near the time the rifle was. Sorry, I don't have Hollywood movie film with superimposed time of the discovery.

That's one weirdo spin. You can make it work, if you wanted to.

Have you checked to see if Day said something regarding that?

Also, your idea that the paper bag was made to protect prints on a window sill strip is cart before the horse. 

Day said this.....

Mr. DAY. On the first floor of the Texas School Book Depository, and I noticed from their wrapping bench there was paper and tape of a similar--the tape was of the same width as this. I took the bag over and tried it, and I noticed that the tape was the same width as on the bag.
Mr. BELIN. Did it appear to have the same color?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. All right. Then what did you do?
Mr. DAY. Sir?
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. DAY. I directed one of the officers standing by me, I don't know which, to get a piece of the tape and a piece of the paper from the wrapping bench.

Day had possession of the rifle prior ro leaving the TSBD. Clearly he said he took the bag to the bench to compare the materials.

As for the discovery of the bag. Who discovered it on the sixth floor? Montgomery? If so that occurred after Day had left the building. Pardon me but this is the LN narrative you are promoting? Don’t blame me for inadequate timelines. After all these clowns had 4 months to get a coherent story before the testimonies were taken.

The bag was not made to transport the strip. I never claimed that. It was used to transport it.

[Colin Crow]

What makes you think they measured before picking up the rifle. The location of the rifle wasn't about to shift, and they could measure it some time later that afternoon.

Day said he got some others to take the paper bag in. I imagine he would end up going through the first floor whether he used the stairs or the freight elevator.

Imagination can be deceiving sometimes Jerry. He didn't go up initially via the shipping table.

[Walt Cakebread]

What makes you think they measured before picking up the rifle. The location of the rifle wasn't about to shift, and they could measure it some time later that afternoon.

Day said he got some others to take the paper bag in. I imagine he would end up going through the first floor whether he used the stairs or the freight elevator.

Day said he got some others to take the paper bag in. I imagine he would end up going through the first floor whether he used the stairs or the freight elevator.

Yes.....And we have many photos of Montgomery carrying a huge paper bag from the TSBD at about 2:20 pm.   But Detective Day had departed the scene at least ten minutes before Montgomery.   Neither Day nor Montgomery have ever said anything about stopping at the shipping table and comparing the paper and tape.  As a matter of fact, I believe the bag was still in the imaginary "Sniper's Nest" being guarded by Montgomery and Johnson when Day left the building with the Carcano.