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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #240 on: March 06, 2020, 04:25:31 PM »
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Then neither is mine.

Then you don't understand what a loaded question is.  Or the difference between a claim and a response to a claim.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #240 on: March 06, 2020, 04:25:31 PM »


Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #241 on: March 06, 2020, 04:57:42 PM »
It would be a hell of a thing if Martin actually had a brain, don't you think?
That will do there. There are posting rules.

There are still a couple of paramount points not responded to in the thread...
1]  ... Not the same paper-------
 

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Proof_the_FBI_Changed_Documents_and_Vincent_Bugliosi_Was_Wrong.html

You can't just attribute this to a coincidental clerical typing error. The entire event is so chock full of coincidences it defies reality.

2] ..... I have read the McAdams site page written by this Magen Knuth...  https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm
Like Bugliosi...sidesteps the absence of oil deposits found in the bag. Saying there was no trace of gun oil found by FBI analysis because only the moving parts were oiled. This is assuming that only the moving parts were ever oiled. When I oil my guns...I oil the entire gun action and barrel because the outside of a weapon is also susceptible to rust and corrosion. Any idiot should know this.
None the less... I contend that if the rifle was dis-assembled... then naturally..even these moving parts would have been exposed and some traces of oil would have been found on the paper somewhere.
 

 

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #242 on: March 06, 2020, 05:52:59 PM »
That will do there. There are posting rules.

There are still a couple of paramount points not responded to in the thread...
1]  ... Not the same paper-------
 

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Proof_the_FBI_Changed_Documents_and_Vincent_Bugliosi_Was_Wrong.html

You can't just attribute this to a coincidental clerical typing error. The entire event is so chock full of coincidences it defies reality.

2] ..... I have read the McAdams site page written by this Magen Knuth...  https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm
Like Bugliosi...sidesteps the absence of oil deposits found in the bag. Saying there was no trace of gun oil found by FBI analysis because only the moving parts were oiled. This is assuming that only the moving parts were ever oiled. When I oil my guns...I oil the entire gun action and barrel because the outside of a weapon is also susceptible to rust and corrosion. Any idiot should know this.
None the less... I contend that if the rifle was dis-assembled... then naturally..even these moving parts would have been exposed and some traces of oil would have been found on the paper somewhere.

Thanks, Jerry, for linking to that article. I wrote it to both share what I'd discovered, and burst the balloon then being floated--that Bugliosi had answered every question and the critics should shut up. It's nice to know it's stood the test of time.
« Last Edit: March 06, 2020, 09:24:24 PM by Pat Speer »

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #243 on: March 06, 2020, 06:16:22 PM »
That will do there. There are posting rules.

There are still a couple of paramount points not responded to in the thread...
1]  ... Not the same paper-------
 

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Proof_the_FBI_Changed_Documents_and_Vincent_Bugliosi_Was_Wrong.html

You can't just attribute this to a coincidental clerical typing error. The entire event is so chock full of coincidences it defies reality.

2] ..... I have read the McAdams site page written by this Magen Knuth...  https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm
Like Bugliosi...sidesteps the absence of oil deposits found in the bag. Saying there was no trace of gun oil found by FBI analysis because only the moving parts were oiled. This is assuming that only the moving parts were ever oiled. When I oil my guns...I oil the entire gun action and barrel because the outside of a weapon is also susceptible to rust and corrosion. Any idiot should know this.
None the less... I contend that if the rifle was dis-assembled... then naturally..even these moving parts would have been exposed and some traces of oil would have been found on the paper somewhere.

Someone at the FBI (Vince Drain) screwed up.....    On page 180 of Livingstone's High Treason both memos are presented side by side.   

Clearly Drain was falsifying the document to frame Lee Oswald.    It's interesting to note that Drain wrote that " The Dallas police have not exhibited this to anyone else. It was immediately locked up by Day and kept in his possession until it was turned over to FBI agent Drain for transmittal to the laboratory."

If Drain wasn't lying,..... then he needs to explain what Montgomery is DISPLAYING to the whole wide world as he leaves the TSBD.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #244 on: March 06, 2020, 06:22:36 PM »
Someone at the FBI (Vince Drain) screwed up.....    On page 180 of Livingstone's High Treason both memos are presented side by side.   

Clearly Drain was falsifying the document to frame Lee Oswald.    It's interesting to note that Drain wrote that " The Dallas police have not exhibited this to anyone else. It was immediately locked up by Day and kept in his possession until it was turned over to FBI agent Drain for transmittal to the laboratory."

If Drain wasn't lying,..... then he needs to explain what Montgomery is DISPLAYING to the whole wide world as he leaves the TSBD.

Are the memos available online?

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« Reply #244 on: March 06, 2020, 06:22:36 PM »


Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #245 on: March 06, 2020, 06:48:53 PM »
Are the memos available online?

They are in the essay linked above at the maryferrell site.

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #246 on: March 06, 2020, 06:50:19 PM »
They are in the essay linked above at the maryferrell site.

Thanks

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #247 on: March 06, 2020, 08:38:15 PM »
Bump for Charles Collins, who suddenly seems to completely avoid answering a simple question. One can only wonder why....

I don't have to be accountable for anything I say as long as it has a question mark at the end.

When there is a question mark at the end, it's a question and thus not something you are saying. This really isn't all that difficult to understand, so why are you struggling to comprehend it?

Let's try it this way, genius. Tell me please, what (if any) is the difference between these two sentences;

But that would be hell of a way to "conceal" a rifle he had just used in an attempted murder, don't you think?

and

Don't you think that would be hell of a way to "conceal" a rifle he had just used in an attempted murder?

Well, Mr. Collins... what's (if any) is the difference between those two sentences?

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Re: Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.
« Reply #247 on: March 06, 2020, 08:38:15 PM »