Oswald's sack in the Sniper's nest.

[Charles Collins]

considering you don't know, that's it's the bag , or that its Nov 22nd...don't go running with that thing in your mouth.
ok?

Okay, I will postpone the History Channel and PBS special programs just for you. When are you expecting to have the evidence that suggests that it is something other than the bag on 11/23/63? All the TV advertising agents want to know!

[Walt Cakebread]

Okay, I will postpone the History Channel and PBS special programs just for you. When are you expecting to have the evidence that suggests that it is something other than the bag on 11/23/63? All the TV advertising agents want to know!

I will postpone the History Channel and PBS special programs just for you.

That is an EXCELLENT idea, Charles.   IMO those programs are simply more disinformation and propaganda...... 

[Charles Collins]

I will postpone the History Channel and PBS special programs just for you.

That is an EXCELLENT idea, Charles.   IMO those programs are simply more disinformation and propaganda......

Yep, sometimes they do have an agenda, one way or the other...

[Walt Cakebread]

Yep, sometimes they do have an agenda, one way or the other...

I'm happy that we are in harmony, on this tune......  It seems to me that all of the TV "specials" have a common core theme.....The guilt of Lee Harvey Oswald.   He's guilty and it's just a matter of solving the mystery behind his actions......   But as I said.... I don't watch the "specials" so I could be wrong. 

[Walt Cakebread]

~snip~

Mr. BALL. How long did you stay at the Texas School Book Depository after you found the rifle?
Mr. FRITZ. After he told me about this man almost, I left immediately after he told me that

~snip~
This photo has been cropped....There was a civilian gawking at the detectives as they contaminated the imaginary "Sniper's Nest"....  The gawker seems to be a TSBD employee ( he doesn't appear to be a reporter. )



Anybody want to guess at the reason that the gawker was cropped off the photo?


Mr. TRULY. And there were other officers with him. Chief Lumpkin stepped over and told Captain Fritz that I had something that I wanted to tell him.
Mr. BELIN. All right. And then what happened
Mr. TRULY. So Captain Fritz left the men he was with and walked over about 8 or 10 feet and said, "What is it, Mr. Truly," or words to that effect.
And I told him about this boy missing and gave him his address and telephone number and general description. And he says, "Thank you, Mr. Truly. We will take care of it.

~snip~

Mr. DULLES. When was the paper bag covering that apparently he brought the rifle in, was that discovered in the sixth floor about the same time?
Mr. FRITZ. No, sir; that was recovered a little later. I wasn't down there when that was found.
Mr. DULLES. It was recovered on the sixth floor, was it not?
Mr. FRITZ. Yes, sir; I believe so. We can check here and see. I believe it was. But I wasn't there when that was recovered.

[Walt Cakebread]

“It was immediately locked up by Day and kept in his possession until it was turned over to FBI agent Drain for transmittal to the laboratory."

Thanks Walt, This answers the question that I asked earlier in the thread regarding that.

Therefore, based on this confirmation that it was secured in the crime labs and the sun angle study that Mytton and myself presented, the photo in which Patrick found the bag laying on top of the boxes does appear to have been taken about 2:00 pm on 11/22/63.

I'm sorry that I can't refer you to a statement ( written ?)  by Detective John Carl Day, in which He said that he and Roy Truly were somewhere in the TSBD when he (Day ) spotted a "gun case SHAPED paper sack".   ( Gun cases are usually triangular shaped ) When Day picked it up he turned to Roy Truly and asked him if he had ever seen it before.  Truly of course replied that he'd never seen the "gun case" before..... Whereupon , Day folded the sack up and put it in his pocket and later swore that he'd never displayed the "gun case" to anybody but Roy Truly.     

I believe that this happened when Day returned to the TSBD after he had taken the carcano to the DPD crime lab.

This bit of information has always been ignored and swept aside...... 

[Walt Cakebread]

That will do there. There are posting rules.

There are still a couple of paramount points not responded to in the thread...
1]  ... Not the same paper-------
 

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Essay_-_Proof_the_FBI_Changed_Documents_and_Vincent_Bugliosi_Was_Wrong.html

You can't just attribute this to a coincidental clerical typing error. The entire event is so chock full of coincidences it defies reality.

2] ..... I have read the McAdams site page written by this Magen Knuth...  https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/bag.htm
Like Bugliosi...sidesteps the absence of oil deposits found in the bag. Saying there was no trace of gun oil found by FBI analysis because only the moving parts were oiled. This is assuming that only the moving parts were ever oiled. When I oil my guns...I oil the entire gun action and barrel because the outside of a weapon is also susceptible to rust and corrosion. Any idiot should know this.
None the less... I contend that if the rifle was dis-assembled... then naturally..even these moving parts would have been exposed and some traces of oil would have been found on the paper somewhere.

Of course you're right about some trace of oil should have been found in the bag if the disassembled rifle was ever in that paper bag....but IMO that's not the salient point ....The important point is; ...The FBI memos clearly reveal that the FBI was falsifying documents.     And there is useful information to be garnered from the memo.   ie;  The FBI originally reported that the sample of paper that they had received from Roy truly DID NOT match the paper from which the "gun case" was fabricated.   But Vince Drain retyped that memo and changed the memo to make it appear that the sample from Roy Truly DID match  the "gun case"....

But there's more cover up involved.    To explain the reason that Roy Truly's sample did not match the paper of the "gun case'  the FBI said that the rol of paper had been changed after the "gun case" was fabricated.... So when Truly took the sample it was from a different roll.    (Drain apparently realized that that flimsy explanation would never fly, because even if the roll was changed the rolls of wrapping paper all came from the same supplier ( manufacturer )

The memos are actually just another part of the "smoking gun" that reveals the truth about the coup d e'tat ......   

[John Iacoletti]

Didn't Hoover claim that it was well-oiled?